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Voter Fraud and Civil War
The Trumpet ^ | November 17, 2020 | RICHARD PALMER

Posted on 11/18/2020 2:09:39 AM PST by gattaca

Voter fraud has a long history in the United States. Ominously, much of that history traces back to civil war.

In the vote for the Kansas Territory’s first legislature in 1855, 6,307 people voted, even though the territory had only 2,905 legal voters. Thousands had poured across the border from Missouri to vote in an attempt to make sure Kansas joined the union as a slave state, which would help perpetuate slavery nationwide. Missouri Senator David Atchison led the effort. One of his lieutenants told a crowd to “mark every scoundrel among you that is the least tainted with free-socialism or abolitionism, and exterminate him.” Missourians must vote, he said “at the point of a Bowie knife or revolver.”

The pro-slavery side basically got away with election theft. So they kept at it. In 1857, Kansas voted for a new territorial legislature. One district of just 130 legal voters somehow returned 2,900 ballots.

Right now, a lot of people are parsing this or that detail of this or that alleged fraud in this or that state. But too few are considering the ultimate consequence of a massive attempt to steal an election: outright civil war.

A country can stay together because its citizens believe that what unites them is greater than what divides them. One man may be a Republican, another a Democrat, but they can keep America together if the fact that they are both American is more important than the political divide.

This restrains what could be an all-out war for power. The two may compete politically, but greater loyalty keeps that competition within the bounds of the law.

If powerful people are willing to take away the most fundamental right of a citizen, it is a symptom that this greater loyalty has broken down.

“Bleeding Kansas” was an infamous step toward civil war. Massive electoral fraud descended into violence and terrible bloodshed between the rival factions. Those who were willing to break laws against voter fraud were willing to break laws against intimidation, theft, violence and murder. This sentiment existed across enough of the country that one side decided it had so little in common with the other that they fought to break away.

Yet civil war isn’t the only threat. Dissolving national loyalties also make a nation much weaker in facing external threats. It kills national will.

This disease infected France in the late 1930s. Many on the right detested far-left Prime Minister Leon Blum so much that they rallied to the cry “better Hitler than Blum.” No wonder France did not put up much of a fight. Many hated their rival political party more than they hated the enemy. Meanwhile those on the left were more concerned with the international success of communism than with the success of their own state. France failed to take the tough measures needed to stand up to Hitler in the 1930s, and when he attacked in 1940, it quickly collapsed.

For much of America’s history, a certain amount of voter fraud was considered normal. The infamous Tammany Hall political machine of the Democratic Party in New York City got away with more than 100 years, for example. But when fraud expands out of “normal” bounds, it’s a good sign of trouble. Restraints that once held people back aren’t working anymore.

Abraham Lincoln said that the answer to division is respect for law. In his Lyceum Address, which he gave when he was 28, he said: “Let reverence for the laws be breathed by every American mother to the lisping babe that prattles on her lap; let it be taught in schools, in seminaries, and in colleges; let it be written in primers, spelling books and in almanacs; let it be preached from the pulpit, proclaimed in legislative halls, and enforced in courts of justice.”

The rule of law can restrain violent division. But massive voter fraud reveals that this restraint no longer exists.

What replaces the rule of law? Armed Antifa thugs on the streets of American cities. Activist judges who use the language of law to render judgments according to their will of what the outcome will be and not what the law actually says.

In 2001, Trumpet editor in chief Gerald Flurry published No Freedom Without Law. Discussing America’s divisions, he wrote, “A big part of the answer is getting back to the Constitution and law.”

The solution to America’s problem involves unity. But unity cannot be the goal of itself. This was part of Lincoln’s great insight. Other politicians had sought unity as their number one goal. But the result was a series of compromises with slavery, which only pushed the problem off and made it worse.

In Lincoln’s day, one side was right, and one side was wrong. That’s not to say that everyone fighting for the South was evil or had evil motives. But those who sought unity as an end in itself ended up compromising with the wrong—and nothing good ever came of it. Lincoln strove for unity based on the law as a way to achieve unity based on what was right.

That is what is necessary today. The Bible has many prophecies warning about division. And the solution revolves around getting back to law.

I’ve been rereading No Freedom Without Law, and so much of what Mr. Flurry wrote 20 years ago has proved prescient. He discussed the Bush v. Gore court case—an attempt to steal the 2000 American presidential election. He warned:

The attempt was made and it almost succeeded. That shows how lawless our people have become. This portends a nightmare future—unless we heed God’s message.

Once our political system falls apart, nobody will be able to put it back together again.

How horrifying that we cannot see the coming mega-disaster! The outcome could be changed by heeding God’s message.

That could have seemed far-fetched in 2001. Now we have several major news organizations publishing articles warning that we could be heading for another civil war.

This booklet gives the practical solution to this division: Obey the rule of law. Chapters 2 and 3 especially are relevant to the situation we face today. As an individual, you may be powerless to stop a civil war. But the message of this booklet is so practical that you and I can apply in our individual lives and reap the benefits of it, regardless of what the nation does.

As with all our material, No Freedom Without Law is free; read it online or order your own print copy.


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To: polymuser
FWIIW, Tytler's Wikipedia entry says this cannot be directly sourced to Tytler according to the progressive web-site Snopes ...

Wikipedia - Alexander Fraser Tytler, Lord Woodhouselee

41 posted on 11/18/2020 5:11:12 AM PST by MacNaughton
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To: Hardastarboard
This was all predictable the day America was stupid enough to elect Bill Clinton President.

I agree with that. Clinton was the first true sociopath president. He taught his acolytes that it's okay to lie, cheat and steal because it works. Thank you Ross Perot.

42 posted on 11/18/2020 5:16:38 AM PST by KevinB (Quite literally, whatever the Left touches it ruins.)
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To: gattaca
What an excellent essay.! Thanks for that..
43 posted on 11/18/2020 5:34:33 AM PST by unread (A REPUBLIC..! If you can keep it....)
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To: unread

There are many others on the site that give me hope.


44 posted on 11/18/2020 5:36:03 AM PST by gattaca ("Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives." Ronald Reagan)
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To: MacNaughton

OK, thx for the info.

Wikipedia is progressive, too, heavily edited by lefties.

Imagine if progressives/leftists/D’rats spent as much time and effort fact-checking THEIR claims...


45 posted on 11/18/2020 5:43:12 AM PST by polymuser (A socialist is a communist without the power to take everything from their citizens...yet.)
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To: Bullish

I agree with you. If Biden is allowed to steal this election, there won’t be another. Things won’t return to “normal” after Biden and Harris are allowed to steal it. They will come after us and our children. They intend to do bad things to us and President Trump of which killing will be the most pleasant.


46 posted on 11/18/2020 5:46:21 AM PST by sport
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To: KevinB

I agree with that. Clinton was the first true sociopath president. He taught his acolytes that it’s okay to lie, cheat and steal because it works. Thank you Ross Perot.

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Let’s face it... After Reagan, it has been all down hill until Trump came along.

paBush “New world order” and his son are just as guilty. Then of course we have Obama who “Fundamentally changed this country”.

Basically 32 years of corruption...

Hillary was supposed to be the first woman president and the last US President.

It “appears” that Trump is the last true American President unless we can defeat the coup.


47 posted on 11/18/2020 5:57:44 AM PST by HypatiaTaught
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To: mabarker1

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48 posted on 11/18/2020 6:25:09 AM PST by Chode (Send bachelors and come heavily armed. )
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To: Hardastarboard
This was all predictable the day America was stupid enough to elect Bill Clinton President.

We were stupid enough to elect the Bushes - which got us the Clintons.

49 posted on 11/18/2020 6:46:59 AM PST by AAABEST (NY/DC/LA media/political/military industrial complex DELENDA EST)
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To: polymuser

Who knows what the 47% (going to be a much smaller number soon) end up thinking? Some may not even notice Big Bro enough to care. But they are going to complain uselessly as systems begin breaking down at an increasing rate. Not just education and health care that we already see, but as people stop achieving and stop trying to better themselves or “get ahead” because they can’t and will be blocked from doing so by confiscatory taxes and the Green New Deal, other systems will start breaking down - power, water, sewer, communications, energy, transportation - the utilities they will start noticing. Store shelves...all the hoarding in the world will buy you two weeks, and you’re going to need decades.

But the one thing this might do is cure us of the idea that electing a president or getting majorities in Congress or on the Supreme Court will save us from ourselves. We can’t reform this government or societal structure any longer, it is what it is and is going to be. We, or our progeny, will have to destroy this one and start again from the beginning to build a new one. Eventually this one will weaken or corrupt itself enough that it can’t stand any longer, the people will have to rise up or perish.


50 posted on 11/18/2020 7:54:12 AM PST by Scott from the Left Coast (I did not leave my country, my country left me)
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To: gattaca
>>“Bleeding Kansas” was an infamous step toward civil war. Massive electoral fraud descended into violence and terrible bloodshed between the rival factions. Those who were willing to break laws against voter fraud were willing to break laws against intimidation, theft, violence and murder. This sentiment existed across enough of the country that one side decided it had so little in common with the other that they fought to break away.

Representatives of the South committed vote fraud, so the South seceeded in protest of vote fraud?

51 posted on 11/18/2020 8:23:17 AM PST by SovereignVA
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To: SkyPilot
We've been discussing Vote Fraud here on FR for over 20 years. Nothing is ever done.

But nothing on this scale, fraud that chanted the outcome of Presidential election and is blatantly obvious.

52 posted on 11/18/2020 8:50:28 AM PST by Kazan
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To: Scott from the Left Coast

Agree with your future scenario, sadly.

I really want to be optimistic, but the ignorance and meanness I’ve been witnessing for months all around me — among my friends, coworkers, family, fellow shoppers, on TV and radio and the web — makes my Earthly optimism difficult.

Will we recover our Founders’ America and Christian heart (required)? Will we be just another failed society in an old list? Are the end times beginning now?


53 posted on 11/18/2020 8:52:29 AM PST by polymuser (A socialist is a communist without the power to take everything from their citizens...yet.)
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To: Pollard
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That's exactly the point I was making in my post -- each and every civil war proponent (however many there are) in the modern-day United States is going to have a totally different, rather arbitrary list of opponents. The outcome sounds like it would be a totally random anarchic civil war of everyone against everyone. Again, that's the point I made in my earlier post. And that's why I asked the question: Can someone please explain how such a civil war would even work? And if the outcome would be the totally anarchic everyone-against-everyone civil war I just mentioned, what would even be the point of such a conflict?

54 posted on 11/18/2020 10:37:59 AM PST by gw-ington
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To: gw-ington

and isolate the blue cities. No shipments go in. no people come out. Go to the suburbs and round up the Karens and give them over to the cities.

I think that pretty much covers it.

This is all fictitious of course. I like dystopian fiction.


55 posted on 11/18/2020 10:47:32 AM PST by Pollard (Bunch of curmudgeons)
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To: Chode
And a 110V Grounded Outlet for My Scooter.

Her name is Blue Flash.


56 posted on 11/18/2020 2:33:17 PM PST by mabarker1 ((Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!! A fraud, a hypocrite, a liar. I'm a member of Congress !!!!)
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To: AAABEST

Amen to that. GHW Bush p!$$ed away Reagan’s legacy.


57 posted on 11/18/2020 2:58:13 PM PST by Hardastarboard (Three most annoying words on the internet - "Watch the video")
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To: Hardastarboard
This was all predictable the day America was stupid enough to elect Bill Clinton President.

Bill Clinton was elected by the electoral college ONLY BECAUSE OF ROSS PEROT (may piss be upon his name)

58 posted on 11/19/2020 5:18:52 AM PST by DCBryan1 (COMDEMS would rather rule over a pile of ashes, than lose to Trump and REAL Americans)
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59 posted on 11/19/2020 5:36:45 AM PST by DCBryan1 (COMDEMS would rather rule over a pile of ashes, than lose to Trump and REAL Americans)
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