Posted on 11/16/2020 11:43:09 PM PST by rxsid
CDC ADMITS — We counted 51,000 heart attacks as Covid deaths
OAN's video on YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7x-biB_JrcU
The dirty secret is that those places that had major outbreaks already, like New York and Madrid Spain and all of Sweden, are getting very few fatal cases in this winter season. The reason is, I think, herd immunity plus some proportion of the very vulnerable have already perished.
The problem is with places that were not hit substantially in the first place, like Wisconsin or Andalucia or Poland. It’s their turn now. Brutal, but that’s what’s going to happen, lockdown or no lockdown.
Notice how the articles do not attribute death to anyone based on thrombotic complications.
You are making it up that any deaths have been shown to be due to Covid-19 induced heart attacks.
Making up claims that make it sound like we don’t know what’s going on or that all the doctors and hospitals are in some massive conspiracy against us is banging that fear drum pretty loudly. Facts aren’t that scary.
Fact is, we know what COVID-19 is. We know how it spreads. We know how quickly it spreads. We know who’s at risk for complications. We know what those complications are and we’re getting better about treating them. We know how to slow transmission. And we know how to stop it entirely with vaccines - thanks to President Trump’s efforts to accelerate both that research and the manufacturing of them.
The only people who should be afraid of the facts are people like Governor Cuomo. Like the fact that he forced nursing homes to accept known-infected patients. Like the fact that that policy led to the unnecessary deaths of tens of thousands of defenseless people. The fact that such behavior almost certainly rises to the level of criminally negligent homicide.
We shouldn’t be quibbling over the numbers here. We should be talking about a concerted strategy to ensure Governor Cuomo, Governor Newsom, and others whose policies led directly to the unnecessary deaths of tens of thousands of people are indicted for criminal actions.
You can start with the COVID-19 autopsy YouTube video link I provided ( https://youtu.be/y6h8TIxeg1g ).
Then:
https://journals.physiology.org/doi/full/10.1152/physiol.00019.2020
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/05/200513081810.htm
COVID blood clots:
https://www.facs.org/-/media/files/covid19/umiami_study_uses_of_coagulopathy.ashx
So you’ll admit that COVID-19 leads to significant blood clotting and you’ll admit that blood clots leads to heart attacks, but you refuse to believe that COVID-19 leads to heart attacks? That’s.... special.
The links between COVID-19 blood clotting and heart issues are well known and documented:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7276857/
“Coronavirus disease 19 (COVID‐19) is associated with serious cardiovascular complications, including acute myocardial infarction (AMI).”
https://www.biospace.com/article/covid-19-increases-risk-of-heart-attacks-and-stroke/
“As more is discovered about the disease caused by the SARS-CoV-2, an unexpected cause of death has been identified—heart attacks and strokes caused by blood clots. And this, in particular, appears to be the cause of death in some younger patients under the age of 50.”
https://www.medpagetoday.com/meetingcoverage/tct/89143
“A careful look at the heart after death from COVID-19 suggested cardiac damage was common, but more from clotting than inflammation”
Drago, you are making it seem as if coagulatiry problems are novel and unique to Sars2.
It’s common in just about any viral infection.
Influenza for example.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4947825/#__sec2title
This is the type of dishonesty and twisting of biology to make Covid seem more unique and dangerous that other respiratory diseases that is used to induce fear and panic.
Read what I just wrote to Drago with regard to the misleading way you present things.
And, the coagulation and thrombocytic effect of viral infections is not even what this post is about.
It is about attributing heart attacks to Covid based on nothing other than a positive PCR test.
The thrombocytes effects of virus infection is a separate issue that you brought up to obfuscate the actual issue being discussed.
This should come as no surprise to anyone with critical thinking skills paying attention to govt. “bonus money” going to hospitals. The plan was to create a hoax, leading to panic, convincing people to mail in ballots instead of voting in person. The Pearl-clutching snowflakes bought it. Now the election is FUBAR.
God, we have some ignorant people on here. (No, I am not calling you God OR including you in “some...”!)
My then 87 y/o Dad had flu caused pneumonia, and at the worst part as he struggled with it, his heart rate went to 150, BP through the roof, for hours despite meds to try to control it. It was probably the worst night of my life, beside him there in the ER. Much more so his. I was expecting a heart attack at any time, but Dad’s cardio-vascular system was amazingly strong from a lifetime of being very active outdoors: That, the docs, and God, got him through it. But, if Dad’s heart had failed, flu would have been listed, correctly, as the underlying cause of death.
Now, are those who want to control us doing a Rahm Emmanuel? Absolutely. But that doesn’t erase what they are using as the crisis.
‘’We're seeing, sadly, far greater suicides now than we are deaths from Covid. We're seeing far greater deaths from drug overdose, that are above excess, than we had as background, than we are seeing deaths from Covid.”
Dr. Redfield, Dir. CDC
Never said it was different than other viruses in the mechanism of symptoms/injury/death...COVID-19 is like regular influenza in it’s means of killing with pneumonia being the primary one. So I guess we agree on that! ;-) It is just more effective (& “novel”/new) so it kills more older people and people with preexisting conditions than regular flu. (no COVID-19 “flu shot” vaccine, etc.).
Using “CanadaFreePress Logic” than cancer kills almost nobody because the primary COD on most cancer death certificates isn’t “carcinoma”, it is other things like “renal failure”. There are usually 3 lines on a standard death certificate for COD, and in the case of COVID-19 the virus is listed as #2 or #3 on the primary COD list in most of the cases....with pneumonia, ARDS, stroke, myocardial infarction (heart attack) listed at the top.
Things listed as primary COD on cancer victims death certificates:
https://www.self.com/story/how-does-cancer-kill
Now that we no longer need the votes of useful idiots...
We also have some thoroughly obtuse people on here. They won’t listen to you, or actual facts, but at least you are countering their aberration / misinformation.
I mean... As if most attending Doc’s filling out death certs would not know WHICH underlying condition(s) were or were not significant? Sure, there will be some errors both ways, but death certs will generally have it right. For the authors, as DJT would say, it is in their wheelhouse, and most are responsible, ethical people.
The number of cases is well below the percentage we’re told we need for herd immunity, yet we’re seeing signs of herd immunity. This supports the theory that there is a certain amount of immunity pre-existing in the population, probably because of exposure to other coronaviruses.
The underlying cause of death is the disease or injury which initiates the chain of events leading directly to death.’
and the underlying cause of dying from covid or any other bodily dysfunction is a poor or compromised immune system, endemic in the ranks of the elderly and sickly; this we see borne out by the age ranked death statistics, which should not exactly be earth shattering news, since that has been the way of the world since life began on it...so if we want to be super honest about this, we would say the vast majority died because their bodies were ready to do so...but we don’t list that as a cause of death on a certificate, do we...?
those defending hysterical responses to this particular malady often make the ridiculous assertion that perfectly healthy people are walking down the street, pass by someone who’s infected, and two weeks later are dead in a covid ward; the salient point about this regards why people do this, along with the corollary why do others provide cover for them as they spread pain of familial separation and deal out financial ruination for a basically healthy populace..
Yup. The underlying cause of my Dad’s finally passing was an inoperable severe stomach ulcer (which itself had root causes), but the ulcer was 3rd down on the COD...
What signs are you seeing of herd immunity? Once the herd immunity threshold is crossed - by definition - the Rt value drops below 1. Rt is absolutely NOT anywhere NEAR below 1. Cases, hospitalizations, and deaths are all rising with the turn in weather, just as expected.
A vaccine ends this problem, along with all the other problems caused by the botched responses from the (mostly Democrat) governors. Thankfully, two safe and effective vaccines are here and waiting on their emergency use authorizations from FDA. And now that there isn’t an election looming, the FDA may actually get off its collective hind quarters and actually issue them.
Oh hey, someone who’s actually looked at a real death certificate before and comprehends what a chain of morbid events leading directly to death means!
‘There’s an overwhelming amount of evidence at this point that COVID-19 infection causes blood clotting.’
numerous things cause blood clotting; I happen to to have a propensity for it, having developed atrial fibrilllation...
again, the main point...why do people such as yourself provide cover for those ruining people over hysteria for this particular disease...?
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