Posted on 11/12/2020 7:55:22 AM PST by job
Have not posted on here for a long time. My first introduction to FreeRepublic was ironically during the contested 2000 George Bush.
No one seems to dispute that Trump handily won the in-person voting. Probably like Reagan won over Mondale.
The mail in ballots, and the alleged fabricated ballots, are the only thing that put Biden over Trump. If everything we are told is true, a verification of ballots should show this up, bring a correct count, and Trump should win. We should feel secure in that.
Georgia has already stated there is an automatic recount. Arizona reportedly does not get a recount unless the margin is just a few hundred votes, which at this point, it does not appear that will happen. So, if an automatic recount does not happen, I assume you have to seek redress from the Courts, and get a Court order to examine the ballots, and institute a verification process and recount.
Someone on Glenn Beck just said for some of these states you have to prove systemic and widespread voting irregularities in order to get that kind of order. Here is the problem, as is the problem in many Court cases, sometimes you can't get that kind of evidence because you don't have access to that kind of evidence until the case is accepted and the Court gives you that kind of access. Catch 22. (See Boogie Nights, first you have to get the tapes, then....)
If that is the standard, Trump will most likely not even get started. If they cheated, they will have cheated and won, and that is very concerning.
I hope I am wrong, and I am posting to see if anyone is familiar with the standards to examine ballots and recount in NV, AZ, PA, WI and MI.
Right now, if Trump gets GA, he only needs PA and AZ or PA and WI or MI or MN (I don't think MN is at issue).
Then how did Jill Stein manage to get recounts of MI, PA and WI in 2016?
Good point
Doesn’t anyone understand the actual system the Founders put together? I know people here do. There is a process and we are WAY far away from the end of that process.
FOX,NBC,CNN or anyone other than the state legislatures have no say-so when it comes to who wins the electoral votes in a state. The legislature decides then instructs the state governor to submit their votes to the US Senate. The maps that are all over the place that have red and blue on them are not accurate. The maps are actually totally blank.
The Democrats are stupid. Crafty? Yes, but very stupid. They went in to various states and litigated using Covid as a pretext to force the mailing of millions of ballots. Then they filled out a LOT of those ballots without voting down ballot and/or badly screwing up the down ballot voting. That plus all the dead folks voting, etc. makes for a very bad situation that can be only remedied by the state legislature taking over and casting the electoral votes then telling the state governor to notify the US Senate who those votes are for. Bottom line? Trump will receive at least 300 electoral votes. Then let the riots begin.....
That’s a very good question.
I don’t know, but if she did get a recount that is encouraging. But you need more than a re-tabulation, you need a re-verification to make sure that ballots that were counted should have been counted. My post is more asking a question than making a statement.
Right, I agree with everything you say, that is proof of fraud, but is that enough to get you into Court and get a re-verification and re=count going?
It does not matter if the state legislatures decide to not even consider that. They can tell their governor that they are throwing their electoral votes to Ronald McDonald if they want to. There is a process and it is far from over.
By requesting them and paying for the cost of the recount.
I understand that, but it is very unlikely they would do that.
Jill Stein paid. It happens all the time.
Some recounts are automatic if within a certain percentage range — paid by the taxpayers. If outside of the range, a candidate can pay for a recount.
I still don’t understand why in GA’s recount they aren’t recounting the Perdue Senate Race. He needs a lot less votes to go over 50% than trump needs to pass Biden. It would seem logical to me that the Republicans would demand that his race’s votes be recounted at the same time as the Presidential vote. What the hell is going on with the GA Republican party on this?
Purdue had a plurality greater than one percent, so I believe that is too great to trigger a runoff.
There is no reason why Perdue shouldn’t ask that his race be included in the recount. If necessary, he should take legal action to have it included. I still haven’t seen any rational reason why he isn’t insisting on this.
So then we can pay for it. They must be recounted and audited.
“So then we can pay for it. They must be recounted and audited.”
Definitely! But in a different order, i.e., audited and then recounted.
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