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Rahm Emanuel says Biden administration should help laid off retail workers 'become a computer coder'
Fox News ^ | November 6 2020 | Joseph A. Wulfsohn

Posted on 11/07/2020 12:10:21 AM PST by knighthawk

Former Chicago Mayor and White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel insisted on Friday that a Biden administration will help offer a promising future for laid-off retail workers.

According to the Fox News Decision Desk, Joe Biden currently has 264 electoral votes, just six votes short of the magic number needed to win the White House.

During a panel discussion on ABC, George Stephanopoulos asked the former Obama official what Joe Biden needs to do as president to combat the coronavirus and its effect on the economy.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: biden; h1b; rahmemanuel
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1 posted on 11/07/2020 12:10:21 AM PST by knighthawk
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To: knighthawk

Where is the /s tag?

For what? Just to see any jobs go to unqualified garbage H1Bs from India?

Then back to minimum wage part-time retail work.


2 posted on 11/07/2020 12:15:12 AM PST by Starcitizen (Communist China needs to be treated like the pariah country it is. Send it back to 1971)
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To: Starcitizen

It’s right back into hell if we let him step foot in the WH.

Which we won’t.

We’re not even out of hell yet, just closer to the door.

We’ll fall right back in


3 posted on 11/07/2020 12:25:24 AM PST by dp0622 (Tried a coup, a fake tax story, tramp slander, Russia nonsense, impeachment and a virus. They lost.)
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To: knighthawk

OK let’s get real here.

I learned to code (VBA and SQL which my REAL coding male relatives tease me about) at age 40. My boss said: figure it out. It is really, really hard. It’s not for the faint of heart. Only smart people can do it, really.

My coworkers who were trained to learn to code, along side me, fell away.

Not everyone can learn to code, or want to learn to code, or should code.

It’s creative, it’s wonderful, it’s hard—but most of all, it takes a LOT of brain cells.


4 posted on 11/07/2020 12:26:08 AM PST by olivia3boys
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To: knighthawk
Computer: $500
Eclipse development environment: free
Youtube videos, websites: free
Books: $50 or so each

So tell me why you need a freaking government program to learn to program a computer if you want to.

My first real computer was a PC compatiple with 640 kB of memory that would be $4800 now with inflation and there was no internet, yet I learned to program on it.

5 posted on 11/07/2020 12:28:35 AM PST by KarlInOhio (The greatest threat to world freedom is the Chinese Communist Party and Joe Biden is their puppet.)
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To: olivia3boys

Ok, let’s get real here.

Americans don’t have a chance in hell to get a job in IT or software engineering as filthy Indian H1Bs, H4EADs and OPTs totally dominate the field. Hell, 74% of STEM graduates can’t find jobs in their own fields as foreigners totally dominate. So what good is self-learning/ a certificate-type short course gonna do?


6 posted on 11/07/2020 12:30:40 AM PST by Starcitizen (Communist China needs to be treated like the pariah country it is. Send it back to 1971)
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To: knighthawk
"Let them learn to code", the 21st Century version of "Let them eat cake"!!!
7 posted on 11/07/2020 12:33:57 AM PST by ExSES (the "bottomhttps://youtu.be/ycrqXJYf1SU-line")
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To: knighthawk

Reminds me of the days when the American steal industry collapsed. They sent laid off workers to learn air conditioner repair.


8 posted on 11/07/2020 12:35:02 AM PST by Ciexyz (Prayers for America.)
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To: dp0622

It’s right back into hell if we let him step foot in the WH.

Which we won’t.

We’re not even out of hell yet, just closer to the door.

We’ll fall right back in

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Just Hiden/Ho’s statements about unlimited H1Bs, legalizing 500,000 illegal Indians in the US and giving 10 million greed cards to existing H1Bs and their families should scare you to death.

We “failed” at the ballot box. Demonrats cheated in plain sight with very little sanction. We will try the jury box next. If that fails, the ammo box is all that remains, right?


9 posted on 11/07/2020 12:35:32 AM PST by Starcitizen (Communist China needs to be treated like the pariah country it is. Send it back to 1971)
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To: Starcitizen

Not 100% true. Companies in the US do want to hire white coders, because they have better communication skills.

My high school kind of scatterbrained son with a shitty GPA who nevertheless knows Java, C++ and Python already has 2 job offers lined up. Hasn’t even gotten his BS degree in Computer Science yet! He learned how to code in high school already.

But I agree with you. Trump had been kind of getting rid of H1-Bs and Biden would bring them all back.


10 posted on 11/07/2020 12:37:56 AM PST by olivia3boys
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To: olivia3boys

Coding isn’t easy. It also takes logic, math skills, ability to solve problems, and patience to debug, among a million other things depending on your company. If just anyone starts coding, we will get a lot of crappy, terrible, buggy software and firmware.

Generally, that’s why engineering is not an entry-level job that anyone can just pick up and start working. I work at an engineering company, and their interview process is not easy to pass.

Go ahead and try, but most beginners and ones without an engineering degree will not get hired.


11 posted on 11/07/2020 12:39:52 AM PST by sbnsd
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To: olivia3boys

Coding isn’t easy. It also takes logic, math skills, ability to solve problems, and patience to debug, among a million other things depending on your company. If just anyone starts coding, we will get a lot of crappy, terrible, buggy software and firmware.

Generally, that’s why engineering is not an entry-level job that anyone can just pick up and start working. I work at an engineering company, and their interview process is not easy to pass.

Go ahead and try, but most beginners and ones without an engineering degree will not get hired.


12 posted on 11/07/2020 12:40:10 AM PST by sbnsd
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To: sbnsd

Agreed.

This whole idea of “coal miners can learn to code” is just absurd.

The 5 year period of my life when I learned programming at work (I was directed to learn it and FIGURE IT OUT), and then did code, was one of the hardest, most exhausting, most creative, and memorable periods of my life.

If you love it, it’s truly great! The patience, brain cells, and logic needed is tremendous. But worth it.


13 posted on 11/07/2020 12:45:29 AM PST by olivia3boys
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To: Starcitizen

YES.

I was serious when I said my diet started today and exercise starts tomorrow.

That’s not tough talk. I DREAD the idea.

But they leave us no choice!!

They’re ALL IN now.

And that’s the scary part.

Because there’s no going back for them.

And that means there’s no going back for us.

They got hit lists now on people who supported Trump!!

Goebbels, er, the msm took the POTUS off the air for pushing misinformation!!

Everyone who can, has to fight whether Trump wins or not.
(he’ll win)

Because the other side will go on a RAMPAGE!

So nobody turn their heads back.

There’s nothing there.


14 posted on 11/07/2020 12:46:36 AM PST by dp0622 (Tried a coup, a fake tax story, tramp slander, Russia nonsense, impeachment and a virus. They lost.)
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To: Starcitizen

Here we go again....


15 posted on 11/07/2020 12:49:42 AM PST by mowowie
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To: sbnsd

Go ahead and try, but most beginners and ones without an engineering degree will not get hired.

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Unless they are Indian H1Bs. The whole hiring process is rigged against Americans (Indians rarely have to do the degrading white board coding exam or the coding skills test). The normally use ringers for the times they do have to take these exams - whose answers are more often than not buried on Indian-only interview prep sites. The Indian candidate is being provided the questions before hand by the Indian recruiter. Found out when I was accidentally sent the test questions and answers - for another candidate and position.


16 posted on 11/07/2020 12:52:54 AM PST by Starcitizen (Communist China needs to be treated like the pariah country it is. Send it back to 1971)
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To: knighthawk

Forget coding. Where can I learn to Hack? Especially bank computers. Asking for a friend.


17 posted on 11/07/2020 12:53:40 AM PST by Veggie Todd (Religion. It's like a History class. Without the facts.)
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To: olivia3boys

At one point in my life, I worked for a decade around IT people, hardware geeks, and code-writers (I was outside of this entire sphere myself).

There are particular talents that each group has, and successful types have certain particular skills. With code-writers...they have to have a sense of logic, and visually see a beginning and end to the product code. If you can’t think in that fashion...you will never produce anything of value.

It’s like a repair technician who is assigned to a item-failure, and they can rationally draw a line of problems (more likely to less likely) and not waste time. It’s not a skill that everyone has.

These political dimwits who think you can take 800 unemployed coal miners and make technicians or code-writers out of them...probably need to be sent into ghetto areas to clean up the mess there first.


18 posted on 11/07/2020 1:01:16 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: olivia3boys
It is really, really hard. It’s not for the faint of heart. Only smart people can do it, really.

I contend that anyone can learn to code so long as they can think logically and have at least a little bit of capacity to think spatially. Those two prerequisites also mean that not everyone can learn to code.

Also, just because you know how to code, and this infuriates me to no end, doesn't mean that you are guaranteed a good job anywhere in the world. Coding jobs often stick to specific languages, technologies, industries, and skills. "I know how to code" doesn't mean squat unless you know how to code SAP for logistics, or read COBOL for health insurance, or handle AWS for ecommerce. It's a starting point, not a finish line.

Lastly, coding boils down to a stepwise logical process. It takes creativity to figure out what you want to do, but once you figure it out, it becomes a series of "ok, now do this logical thing next." Those things are going to be done by computers someday soon. Computer coding is one of the most obvious areas where artificial intelligence is going to replace jobs, no not all of them, but probably nearly all of the low level gigs that are currently being done by people in Bangladesh today.

19 posted on 11/07/2020 1:04:26 AM PST by jz638
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To: knighthawk

So demonrats think they are going to tell everyone what jobs they can and cannot do. Complete control over all lives.
Fook ‘em!
They cheated and they lost this elect election.
Rahm can shove it up his ass.


20 posted on 11/07/2020 1:12:47 AM PST by doc maverick
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