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Astonishing polling failure by NY Times — Republicans win 24 of 27 toss-ups…
Citizenfreepress.com ^ | November 04 2020 | Citizenfreepress.com

Posted on 11/04/2020 1:55:15 PM PST by SmokingJoe

Republicans are winning or have won 24 of 27 U.S. House races listed as toss-ups by NY Times … and 13 of 36 ones listed under ‘Democrats expected to win narrowly.’


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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: elections; fakepolls; house

1 posted on 11/04/2020 1:55:15 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe

They did this last night. They dragged their feet on calling states that would have made Trump’s EV total higher than Biden’s. All about the optics.


2 posted on 11/04/2020 1:57:09 PM PST by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: SmokingJoe

Theory: the Democrats are so focused on the big prize that they are forgetting to protect down the ballot.


3 posted on 11/04/2020 1:57:42 PM PST by cdcdawg (Biden has dementia.)
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To: SmokingJoe

Any idea what the tally is now? Last I looked it was GOP +5.


4 posted on 11/04/2020 1:58:07 PM PST by NohSpinZone (First thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers)
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To: SmokingJoe

I love this kind of analysis, where you can see what they predicted vs what happened


5 posted on 11/04/2020 1:58:27 PM PST by Mount Athos
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To: SmokingJoe

I just counted the House races we are ahead in at RCP and came up with 225 Republican House seats? Can someone count them and prove me wrong?


6 posted on 11/04/2020 1:59:58 PM PST by upnspace
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To: SmokingJoe

The bias at the NYT is pretty clear. You would think that unless this is desired propaganda, someone would get fired for gathering such wrong information and passing off as “news.”


7 posted on 11/04/2020 2:03:06 PM PST by Robert357
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To: cdcdawg
Alternative Theory: There was a +5% or so polling bias in favor of the Dems, so toss-up were actually Republican leads and narrow Democrat leads were actually toss-ups.
8 posted on 11/04/2020 2:04:19 PM PST by KarlInOhio (The greatest threat to world freedom is the Chinese Communist Party and Joe Biden is their puppet.)
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To: NohSpinZone

As far as I can see, we have picked up u Dem seats so far. But it could change.


9 posted on 11/04/2020 2:05:04 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: KarlInOhio

My only quibble is that it was probably more than 5, but yeah. The House is really an underreported story.


10 posted on 11/04/2020 2:06:09 PM PST by cdcdawg (Biden has dementia.)
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To: SmokingJoe

Thank you. So much for Faux News’s call that the Rats were going to extend the lead.


11 posted on 11/04/2020 2:06:20 PM PST by NohSpinZone (First thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers)
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To: SmokingJoe

No one should be surprised. The conceit of pollsters is that they are scientists. They dazzle us with a blizzard of rationalizations, but what they do is similar to witchcraft. Nobody knows nothing*. The basic assumption of polling is that the profile of the people who respond is similar to the voting population. They are discovering that this is untrue to the point that their numbers are worthless either in themselves or as trend indicators.

* This was what an Oscar-winning scriptwriter said about the movie business. His favorite movies - the ones he was involved in - were commercial duds. His least favorite ones were blockbusters. But it might as well apply to the polling biz. Trying to divine the intentions of a voting population of hundreds of thousands from a random sample of a few hundred may be impossible. The intent is to get a random, representative sample. But the kinds of people who respond to polls may not be representative of the larger milieu.


12 posted on 11/04/2020 2:07:10 PM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: cdcdawg

You mean you think they forgot to cheat in these races?

I think it’s much more likely that NONE of their so-called “polling” was accurate. Biden’s “massive” lead, or the Dem’s chances in these races.

The dead fish and the rest of his ticket was really not very popular.


13 posted on 11/04/2020 2:08:55 PM PST by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: SmokingJoe

So what’s the balance? Seems Nancy has about 5 vote majority


14 posted on 11/04/2020 2:29:01 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: NohSpinZone

I think it’s closer to 10


15 posted on 11/04/2020 2:29:33 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: Zhang Fei
The conceit of pollsters is that they are scientists...

Gotta believe that thar science!

16 posted on 11/04/2020 2:38:16 PM PST by Real Cynic No More (Make America Great. Prosecute Dems who break the law!)
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