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The Problem with Polling
Ace of Spades ^

Posted on 10/30/2020 4:30:14 PM PDT by guido911

There are a number of problems with the polling industry, but the biggest problem they are dealing with is response rate. Prior to 2000, polling was done primarily through random dial landline calling and they would get a response rate of 50%. That means half the people they contacted would answer their questions.

The response rate today is 2%. 98 out of every 100 attempts to reach a voter is rejected. Of those that do respond, there is a very high sampling bias toward young, female, white Democrats. One of the pollsters I admire right now is Rich Baris, and he said, “the very first Republican I get to respond to every poll sounds like a Bill Kristol clone”.

Getting a representative sample of the electorate is HARD.


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1 posted on 10/30/2020 4:30:14 PM PDT by guido911
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I dont know I answer the poll questions. I answer that I am eager to get out and vote for Hillary. Oh wait Biden. OK I just answer that it is the Dem who I am voting for.

Hahaha. It is amazing how many ads for Biden and other dems I get. Keep sending them so I can do my part to waste their election money on me.


2 posted on 10/30/2020 4:35:29 PM PDT by jimpick
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To: guido911

Thanks for posting.


3 posted on 10/30/2020 4:35:57 PM PDT by simpson96
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To: guido911

2/100 instead of 50/100. Which means getting in touch with someone who likely wants to vent. Kid of like reviews of products and services these days. Most happy people don’t leave a review.


4 posted on 10/30/2020 4:36:43 PM PDT by CatOwner
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To: CatOwner

*Kind of like


5 posted on 10/30/2020 4:37:12 PM PDT by CatOwner
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To: guido911

It’s worth recalling that a lot of the polls were wildly off in 2018, too. In Florida and Ohio, for example.


6 posted on 10/30/2020 4:37:56 PM PDT by furquhart (Would it not be easier to dissolve the people and elect another?)
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To: guido911
I suspect the biggest problem they are dealing with is accepting money to turn the dials. The so called 'difficulties' give them plausible deniability. The price goes up the closer to the election, as the cost to reputation also goes up.

It's a market for a narrative, not a reflection of reality.

The cost of goods sold is reputation, so they tighten it up at the end and make sure they are close to each other.

Or not, but that's my read.

7 posted on 10/30/2020 4:38:22 PM PDT by tinyowl (A is A)
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To: guido911

If anyone calls to poll me. I will answerTralfalgar or Rasmussen but anyone else can go F themselves


8 posted on 10/30/2020 4:39:05 PM PDT by BigEdLB (BigedLB, Russian BOT, At your service)
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To: guido911

Prior to 2000 if you called a landline number it was probably busy, logged into AOL.


9 posted on 10/30/2020 4:40:42 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: BigEdLB

Rasmussen has Biden winning the election.


10 posted on 10/30/2020 4:42:10 PM PDT by thegagline
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To: monkeyshine

Yep those were the days AOL and Netscape LOL, LOL


11 posted on 10/30/2020 4:44:54 PM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: guido911

Polling is utterly futile and worthless in an age of “cancel culture” where you can be banished by the social media thought police.


12 posted on 10/30/2020 4:45:01 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("There's somebody new and he sure ain't no rodeo man.")
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To: BigEdLB
If anyone calls to poll me. I will answer

I have hung up on them and will continue to do so.

If a pollster kidnapped and tortured me, I still would not tell them a thing.

They can go f^%$ themselves.
13 posted on 10/30/2020 4:47:37 PM PDT by cgbg (Biden n-2020: Criminal enterprise using cokehead as bagman. Pronounced: Bye Done.)
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To: BigEdLB

If it’s People’s Pundit, try to answer that one. That’s Rich Baris. He’s trying to get rustbelt swing state republican men to answer honestly.


14 posted on 10/30/2020 4:50:12 PM PDT by Betty Jane
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I tell them I too scared to vote due to covid. They wanted fear well that’s what you get. Oh ok want to vote for Biden but with covid I can’t leave my house. Haven’t you been watching the news, so many people are catching it. They’re getting desperate. They created the situation and only they can fix it.


15 posted on 10/30/2020 4:54:31 PM PDT by Keyhopper (Indians had bad immigration laws)
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To: guido911

Add to that the dems that say they are Republican just to skew the poll. I always check the percentage of R’s voting for R’s.


16 posted on 10/30/2020 4:57:49 PM PDT by Revolutionary ("Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition!")
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To: Betty Jane

I am not in the rust belt


17 posted on 10/30/2020 4:59:57 PM PDT by BigEdLB (BigedLB, Russian BOT, At your service)
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To: thegagline

Wrong. Rasmussen is a National poll and is meant to measure the popular vote.

I assume you know the popular vote does not determine the winner....right?


18 posted on 10/30/2020 5:00:13 PM PDT by billyboy15
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To: CatOwner

Does anyone answer unknown callers on a cell phone? I certainly don’t. How many people actually still have land lines? I don’t. When pollsters are adding the “special sauce”, over polling dems, how many Republicans do they hang up on looking for that +15% democrats? With their credibility issues, do they actually poll or just make their crap up?


19 posted on 10/30/2020 5:01:14 PM PDT by hardspunned (MAGA, now more than ever)
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“It is amazing how many ads for Biden and other dems I get. Keep sending them so I can do my part to waste their election money on me.”

Next election cycle I intend to send one dollar to the demonrat party and get onto their mailing/vote solicitation list.

My goal is to have them send me a hundred fliers in the mail. Their production/mailings cost, I'm guessing, approaches 75 cents per mail piece.

That would be $75 they can't spend enticing and deceiving vulnerable Karens.

20 posted on 10/30/2020 5:01:17 PM PDT by jeffersondem
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