Posted on 10/26/2020 4:13:32 PM PDT by george76
Googles high-handed tactics with US regulators have come back to haunt it, with critics saying the tech giant set the stage for a dramatic showdown with the Department of Justice nearly a decade ago.
The DOJ last week sued Google, accusing it of using anti-competitive tactics to maintain its search engines dominance over rivals. The focus of the suit massive cash payments to smartphone makers like Apple and Samsung to make Googles search engine the default option on their devices is a fresh one.
But industry sources say the Silicon Valley giant has nevertheless made itself vulnerable to a battle with the heavyweight DOJ by refusing to cooperate with regulators in the past.
In 2012, a Democrat-led Federal Trade Commission offered the search engine giant a plea deal over allegedly anticompetitive practices that would likely have protected it from its current legal dispute with the DOJ,...
The FTCs offer, which has not previously been reported, came in the form of a consent agreement that carried no admission of guilt for Google if it would agree to rein in some of its controversial search practices.
Those included Googles scraping of content from third-party websites like Yelp to use on its own platforms without linking back to those sites, and restrictions the FTC claimed Google created to prevent advertisers from doing business with rival search engines
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The DOJ claims it was unfairly helped along by convincing phone makers to make it the default engine, thus locking up the distribution channels.
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If Google tangles with the DOJ and loses, it could be forced to sever its relationship with Apple a scenario so stark for Google that its been labeled Code Red inside the company
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Seth Bloom,.. I think Googles monopoly in search is unquestioned,
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Make them sever their relationships with both Apple and Samsung.
AND make them divest YouTube 100%.
AND make them completely abolish all so-called “hate speech” or other such standards and strictly adhere to the no discriminatory provision of service in any way for any but CLEARLY ILLEGAL speech.
If they don’t agree. to the last condition then break Google into a million pieces after forcibly divesting them of YouTube and forbidding any relationship with Apple or Samsung.
Then move on to Facebook. Then Twitter. Then Amazon.
Also divest Android
I eschew google in every particular.
DuckDuckGo is my default search engine.
I had duck duck go for my search engine and after I did an update on my Apple stuff it went back to google so I had to switch it back . That seems wrong and should be addressed also !! Break up Google !!
Google paid Apple $10 billion dollars to be the default search engine on their phones.
Odd, non of my devices switched back after an update.
The deals to be their default search engine is “monopolizing behavior.” That is illegal. Being a monopoly isn’t illegal in itself.
See, I did a terrifically boring class presentation on the Sherman Antitrust Act in high school in 1963. :)
I think we went to different schools together.
In 2012, a Democrat-led Federal Trade Commission offered the search engine giant a plea deal over allegedly anticompetitive practices that would likely have protected it from its current legal dispute with the DOJ...
A person selects say duck duck go to be their main search engine.
Apple does an update to the phone, and makes "Google" the main search engine.
Ok, Mr., or Mrs.,-Miss lawyer, why isn't this computer trespass?
We're talking one line (very short at that) of code, that has nothing to do with the function, or operating ability of the phone.
Where in the contract, do you acknowledge wavier of ownership?
Where in the contract do you wave all ownership rights, and agree to computer trespass, so computer harassment, via the changing back to "Google" as the main search engine, can take place.
Either you own the phone,/computer, or you don't.
If your an attorney, and know nothing about coding, forget what you just read, it's way above your pay grade.
The very same code written to change back the computer / phone, to use "Google" instead of duck duck go, or what ever, is almost the same code you would write to leave the phone / computer unaltered, i.e., known as either a "if" statement, or a "True" / "False" statement.
I should say for the record that the only coding I did, was via "Object Pal" coding in / for "Paradox 5" Relational Ship Data Base Programing. Self taught, by the way.
I was doing some work (programing a self filling / calculating receipt / estimate) so as to be able just to type in the cost for different things and the form would auto self calculate, Sub-Total, Tax, Grand Total.
My daughter happens to be home from college, see's what I'm doing, and say's you know how to use Mircosoft Excell spread sheet's.
Should have seen her face when I asked her, "What's a Mircosoft Excell spread sheet."
I was using "WORDPERFECT" just putting empty "Cell(s)" that I wanted onto the page, (where as necessary) and was just making them do / react as I wanted them to; do / react. I would look at the different example's they offered, and for me, it was off to the races. I can just look at something and say ok, if you have to do that, to make the cell(s) react as the example show's, I could for the most part figure out how to change what they showed, and make the cell / cell's behave as I wanted them to. It's not rocket science.
That when my daughter told me, it's not rocket science, but your circling the drain of rocket science. She keep asking me how can I do this stuff with zero experience / training. That's when she informed me, people go to college to learn this stuff.
Can we make them divest of their mapping (location tracking) software as well?
There are probably 5-6 other things.
I switched over 3 years ago, after the James Damore incident.
Yes we can!
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