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[snip] "By subjecting Americans to surveillance without their knowledge or compliance and then storing the data for later use, the government has erected the ultimate suspect society. In such an environment, there is no such thing as 'innocent until proven guilty.'"

"Mounted next to traffic lights or on police cars, ALPRs photograph over 1,800 license tag numbers per minute, take a picture of every passing license tag number and store the tag number and the date, time, and location of the picture in a searchable database," the organization reported. "The data is then shared with law enforcement, fusion centers and private companies and used to track the movements of persons in their cars. There are reportedly tens of thousands of these license plate readers now in operation throughout the country. It is estimated that over 99% of the people being unnecessarily surveiled are entirely innocent."

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1 posted on 10/25/2020 3:22:22 AM PDT by ptsal
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To: ptsal

4th Amendment issue?


2 posted on 10/25/2020 3:24:50 AM PDT by Highest Authority (DemonRats are pure EVIL)
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Ridiculous. There is no expectation of privacy for a license plate. It’s there, publicly visible, to be viewed by accident victims and the police. Nothing private about it. Same thing with hair, faces, clothes and posture. Someone’s trying to rewrite the definition of “privacy” to mean something excessively restrictive, so that lawlessness and mayhem can reign free.


3 posted on 10/25/2020 3:27:38 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (JOBS NOT MOBS!)
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The Communist Chinese have full coverage of the nation using facial recognition feeding a massive database that tracks citizen and non-citizen movements.

Zero privacy and total state control.

Of course, this cannot be misused by totalitarian governments......


6 posted on 10/25/2020 3:54:42 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party is communism)
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I’m a little torn on this issue. If you’re out in public, in plain sight, your expectations of privacy are kind of null and void. Police officers can visually observe your license plate and act on those observations, so why would a computer operation be much different?

But active tracking is another issue.


10 posted on 10/25/2020 4:03:58 AM PDT by fwdude (Pass up too many hills to die on, and you will eventually fall off the edge of the world.)
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To: ptsal

So it’s on to the Federal courts.


14 posted on 10/25/2020 4:11:16 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (BLM Stands For "Bidens Loot Millions"!)
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I realize the herd is out of the gate already but...
I doubt the founding fathers would have put up the requirement of having to have a license plate for their wagons or carriages. Or required to have a drivers license to drive their wagons or carriages.


19 posted on 10/25/2020 4:23:28 AM PDT by jimfr
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The small town I live in basically has only three ways in and out of it. It is next to freeway, and there are several roadside services available.

There are cameras located on the roads into and out of town.

Our police department post a crime summary on facebook each week. At least one stolen vehicle is recovered each week and often there are several.

When they stop the vehicle and do a search more often then not there are drugs and weapons in the vehicle.

These cameras are passive and are no more invasion of privacy then businesses (or homes) that have security cameras.

Personally I have two cameras on the front of my house, one covers the street in front and the second watches my front door.


20 posted on 10/25/2020 4:25:36 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (I am not an expert in anything, and my opinion is just that, an opinion. I may be wrong.)
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Cellphones have been archiving location tracking for years now.


31 posted on 10/25/2020 6:22:56 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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If you drive on public roads there is no right to claim privacy

Finding bad guys is the goal and worthwhile

Unless you are criminal, there is no reason for concern


33 posted on 10/25/2020 6:28:01 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) t Zip-a-dee-doo-dah, zip-a-dee-ay My, o. h, my, what a wonderful day)
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In 2018, the Virginia Supreme Court ruled in favor of Neal but sent the case back to the trial court to determine whether the case involved an “information system” covered by the Data Act. On a second appeal, the court upheld the use of ALPR data collection because the data is not stored within the ALPR system and so was not part of a “record keeping” system covered by the Data Act.


This seems like a narrow interpretation of a “record keeping” system.


41 posted on 10/25/2020 7:49:23 AM PDT by rwa265
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License plate are NOT personal information they are for public ID.
How do you report a hit and bun car oh it was a blue 4 door.


45 posted on 10/25/2020 9:47:17 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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