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TG 132: Should We Pay Any Attention to Polls?
1 posted on 10/18/2020 8:08:26 AM PDT by BenghaziMemoriam
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To: BenghaziMemoriam

I do think that conservatives are less likely to participate in polls than they were in 2016. But I’m not sure that necessarily translates into the same election results we had in 2016.


2 posted on 10/18/2020 8:12:06 AM PDT by Brilliant
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It’s not in the poll takers or media’s best interest to show a lopsided poll. The more controversial the poll or narrow the race, the more the news sells.

The media is clearly biased and still using push polls to try to move public opinion.


3 posted on 10/18/2020 8:16:14 AM PDT by DannyTN
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Polls are crap because nobody has land lines

Back when we had land lines, polls were accurate within 3 points

Now you can’t target people as easily and IP Data and cell phone location data is usually wrong

Phone number are so portable that a traditional New York number could be a person in Kansas City.


4 posted on 10/18/2020 8:17:27 AM PDT by Trump.Deplorable
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To: BenghaziMemoriam

This is an excellent video—I would encourage any Freeper who has not seen it to do so.

We _got_ this.


5 posted on 10/18/2020 8:17:33 AM PDT by cgbg (Biden n-2020: Criminal enterprise using cokehead as bagman.)
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Speaking of polls we’re certain are dead wrong, has anyone in need of a good laugh visited Nate Silver’s site lately? In case you didn’t know, Biden is going to win every “close” Trump-2016 state: Georgia and Texas and Ohio and Florida and Michigan and Wisconsin and North Carolina and Pennsylvania and Arizona and Iowa and he will likely cruise easily past 400 EV while the Democrats assemble a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate (not to mention what will happen in the House or the numerous state legislatures that will flip).

There’s a record-setting amount of delusion out there — one way or the other.


6 posted on 10/18/2020 8:19:42 AM PDT by PermaRag (WANTED: millions of patriotic gun owners who are willing to trade bullets for freedom)
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Trump will prevail.
Period.
Democrats and their Antifa/BLM pawns will be finished along with their deep state enablers!
Trump’s second term will signal their impending demise!
All of the concentration camps being set up by Democrats for (coronavirus quaranteen=I.e.Trump voters) will be filled with Democrats and their pawn street armies of Antifa/BLM psychos. LOL!


9 posted on 10/18/2020 8:26:00 AM PDT by doc maverick
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I aint got 41 minutes to waste. Summarize pls.


10 posted on 10/18/2020 8:27:00 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The NYT commits acts of violence with their words.)
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If turnout is high on election day, it’s nearly all Trump voters. Democrats think that they will literally die from the COVID the second they step outside. Letting the believe this is a good thing.


12 posted on 10/18/2020 8:33:26 AM PDT by cdcdawg (Biden has dementia.)
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All polls are inaccurate, every single one.
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There are about 12% more registered voters this year over 2016. Did they get a call?
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Pollsters mostly call landlines. In 2016, about 50% had landlines, in 2020, that percentage is down to about 37%. Did the many millions that have switched to cell phones get a call?
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How many pollsters call only registered voters? How many responsible polls call only the last 4 out of 5 election voters.
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Upwards of 40% of voters are never polled by anyone, ever. 11% of those polled are undecided.......Then, how can pollsters report voting preferences that add up to 95%+ certainty?
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The reason is that pollsters get paid for real results, not the undecided and they simply don’t record the undecided.


15 posted on 10/18/2020 8:36:51 AM PDT by gandalftb
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Polls are now utterly unreliable for the simple reason that 98% of people won’t participate if called. It wasn’t near that bad ten years ago, but now . . .

One point is that the last eleven presidents who ran for reelection and faced no significant primary opposition all won.

Concomitantly, in all of US history only one senator - Warren G. Harding in 1920 - has ever defeated a governor - never mind a sitting POTUS - for election to the presidency. VP is not an executive position, merely political heir to the POTUS. Senators/VPs only beat other senators/VPs.

Add to that the fact that nobody who doesn’t attain at least VP less that 20 years after attaining statewide office (senator or governor) has ever been elected POTUS. New presidents are shooting stars (Clinton, Obama, Trump) much more so than old warhorses like Bob Dole and Joe Biden.

Trump is right about one thing for sure: he will have a lot to live down if he loses to Biden. Especially now that we know for certain that Biden is as crooked as the day is long (not that that was actual news . . .).

24 posted on 10/18/2020 9:00:51 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (Socialism is cynicism directed towards society and - correspondingly - naivete towards government.)
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Why Polls This Year Are Crap: A Continuing Saga.

Polls every year past, present, and future are crap. They always reflect the desire the guy paying for them wants. Always...without a doubt. Anybody who really believes them is a moron.


33 posted on 10/18/2020 9:19:47 AM PDT by GoldenPup
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A net of one sixth of people asked refuse to answer polls
when they are voting for Trump, only 6% refuse to say Biden, 23% refuse
to answer, Trump. That means only 77 % of Trump vote ia there
but 94 % of Biden vote is there. To get the true picture use some math (#? Rasmussen talked about this in August)

Here are two polls released today by Yougov
Arizona : Biden 50, Trump 47
Biden : 50 / 94% = 53.2
Trump 47/ 77% = 61.1
total = 114.2
Now adjust for Major Party Pct reported (97)
Biden: 53.2 x (97/114.2) = 45.2
Trump: 61.1 x (97/114.2) = 51.9
In Arizona a Trump 3 point deficit turns into a 7 point win

Wisconsin: Biden 51, Trump 46
Biden: 51 / 94% = 54.2
Trump: 45 / 77% = 58.4
Total= 112.7
Now adjust again vs Major (97)
Biden: 54.2 x (97/112.7) = 46.6
Trump: 58.4 X (97/112.7)= 50.3
In Wisconsin a Trump 5 point deficit becomes a 3 point win

This is the effect of Shy Trump
36 posted on 10/18/2020 9:27:46 AM PDT by BigEdLB (BigedLB, Russian BOT, At your service)
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Statistics like polls have no meaning. Statistics does have a role under highly controlled environments like manufacturing with fewer variables.

The lie is that polls have any meaning. At best they measure how my indigestion is affecting my attitude at the moment of the poll.


42 posted on 10/18/2020 9:42:34 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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EVERY nervous Nellie out there needs to watch this video - he’s confirmed my heart felt ideas.


50 posted on 10/18/2020 11:17:31 AM PDT by 11th_VA (I believe Hunter BidenÂ’s emails ...)
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