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Biden email episode illustrates risk to Trump from Giuliani
The Associated Press ^ | October 17, 2020 | By ERIC TUCKER (D-AP)

Posted on 10/17/2020 6:07:09 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

A New York tabloid’s puzzling account about how it acquired emails purportedly from Joe Biden’s son has raised some red flags. One of the biggest involves the source of the emails: Rudy Giuliani.

Giuliani has traveled abroad looking for dirt on the Bidens, developing relationships with shadowy figures, including a Ukrainian lawmaker who U.S. officials have described as a Russian agent and part of a broader Russian effort to denigrate the Democratic presidential nominee.

Yet Giuliani says foreign sources didn’t provide the Hunter Biden emails. He says a laptop containing the emails and intimate photos was simply abandoned in a Delaware repair shop and the shop owner reached out to Giuliani’s lawyer.

Frustration about Giuliani in the West Wing has long run rampant, with those around the president warily watching Giuliani’s efforts to bring down the Bidens and fearful they could boomerang back on the president.

Giuliani was central to advancing a discredited theory that Ukraine, not Russia, had interfered in the 2016 election. His shadowy efforts to get Ukraine to launch investigations into the Bidens helped create the impeachment case against Trump.

Some around Trump fear that the case being made against the younger Biden has been weakened because Giuliani has become its face.

The Trump campaign has been pushing allegations of corruption against the Bidens for more than a year, with the president advancing the widely discredited theory that the vice president sought to force out Ukraine’s top prosecutor to protect his son from scrutiny. Though Trump associates believe a case can be made that Hunter enriched himself by selling access to his father, they fear that Giuliani’s lack of credibility will cause the allegations to implode.

(Excerpt) Read more at apnews.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bias; election2020; journalism; media
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To: proud American in Canada

One can always depend on The Absolute Propaganda for garbage.

That is what AP stands for isn’t it?


61 posted on 10/17/2020 7:31:37 AM PDT by JayAr36 (My disgust with government is complete.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

So, it’s Rudy’s fault.

BS


62 posted on 10/17/2020 7:31:53 AM PDT by moovova
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“...with the president advancing the widely discredited theory that the vice president sought to force out Ukraine’s top prosecutor to protect his son from scrutiny.”

Discredited by whom? As far as I know all the actual evidence shows this is exactly what happened. Spins and suppression by the media and the Deep State are not the same as being discredited. Biden even bragged about doing so.


63 posted on 10/17/2020 7:38:44 AM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: EnquiringMind

Wray, “ I can’t speak about a matter under investigation. You’ll need to speak to the SAC spokesperson in charge of the FADED* for technical details.”

(*Forensic Accidentally Deliberate Erasure Division)


64 posted on 10/17/2020 7:41:35 AM PDT by Covenantor (We are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who can not govern. " Chesterton)
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To: PghBaldy

Oh, they are...they’re investigating to see if this is a Russian disinfo op....


65 posted on 10/17/2020 7:42:54 AM PDT by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man, a subject.")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I’ve stated before that I think it would be wise to be cautious about such a “gift” falling into our laps for fear it could be a set up and a big “gotcha” on Trump. I think much of the information is original and correct. I just believe there false information may have been included to discredit the whole thing. But the risk is not from Giuliani but from the usual suspects.

I also have to wonder why the FBI has held onto the information for this long. Is it so they could plant false information? We know the higher ups have shown a willingness to destroy the president.


66 posted on 10/17/2020 7:47:43 AM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: buckalfa

“If something is too good to be true, it usually isn’t.”

True indeed. Everything needs to be authenticated. Early indications at moment point towards that they are going in that direction of being authentic. But as part of the process, like the Russian hoax, Biden should be asked daily about this to “help” the process to get to the truth. The press won’t apply the Russian hoax reporting standard to Biden’s issue.

The gift horse right is now, don’t bet for a minute that if the tables were turned, how the demonkkkraps would play it. The kkkraps and their media wing is circling the wagons. Pay attention to what they are not saying.


67 posted on 10/17/2020 7:58:13 AM PDT by Susquehanna Patriot
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To: PghBaldy

Not like Rudy did not have any experience in prosecuting criminals at the federal level. Or seeing up close how corrupt the Wray FBI remains.

There’s a legal path and a political one. If the FBI has been sitting on this since December, what would one expect Guliani to do? Other than people around here, no one was concerned about Lynch and BJClinton’s secret meeting in AZ after his 110 F golf outing and the subsequent quick resolution of HRC’s FBI email problem.

Nothing is ever clean in politics, it’s like watching sausages being made. I’ll stick with Rudy here, no matter how messy - to give serious consideration to any demonkkkrap protestation after what they did to Trump deserves no consideration. We are in a war.


68 posted on 10/17/2020 8:05:40 AM PDT by Susquehanna Patriot
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

And yet countless stories of Trump collusion with Russia went unverified but the left-wing media ran with them anyway...


69 posted on 10/17/2020 8:15:58 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (How did a bunch of data thieves decide they were the arbiters of truth?)
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To: mmichaels1970
“New York tabloid” eh? Media has been at all out war and just got whacked back. Full damage control in effect.

In this case, it doesn't matter what the press SAYS about it. The allegation has broken through the wall of censorship and is now spreading out into the public at large.

Hecklers at future Biden events should hold up a wad of bills (monopoly money will work for this), wave them towards Biden and chant in Chinese "How much money?" "How much money?" "How much money?" (Duōshǎo qián? - sounds like "Do shou tin"

70 posted on 10/17/2020 8:22:15 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (How did a bunch of data thieves decide they were the arbiters of truth?)
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To: kempster
If Biden gets elected you can count on these Biden stories to grow legs. Kamala is the ultimate goal for all if them. Biden is a patsy.

I have been thinking the same thing, they just desperately need to get him over the finish line.

71 posted on 10/17/2020 8:37:37 AM PDT by usurper ( version)
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To: magua

I wanted to vote for Rudy Guliani the year he ran for President, but he had dropped out of the race by the time CA voted in the primary.

Sometimes on the anniversary of 9-11, I watch footage of Rudy in action that day in NYC. Textbook example of quick thinking and leadership as it unfolded in real time and no one knew what the hell was going on (except for whoever posted the third post of the first Free Republic thread after the second plane went in which simply read: Osama Bin Laden).

The Biden Crime Family—the best October surprise ever!


72 posted on 10/17/2020 8:54:07 AM PDT by olivia3boys
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

#TraitorJoe


73 posted on 10/17/2020 9:54:58 AM PDT by joshua c
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To: silent majority rising

I am hoping and praying for Pelosi. Please, Lord, let Pelosi get tied in to this.


74 posted on 10/17/2020 10:04:52 AM PDT by JustaCowgirl (A vote for Joe Biden is a vote for empty smirking pantsuit Kamala Harris for President)
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To: kevao

“...laptop containing the emails and intimate photos was simply abandoned in a Delaware repair shop...”

Because drug addled screw-ups usually so responsible....


75 posted on 10/17/2020 10:09:50 AM PDT by moehoward (.)
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To: buckalfa

“If something is too good to be true, it usually isn’t.”

I suppose the laptop could have been setup to appear as though Hunter owned it then loaded up with intercepted data. Then dropped off with a legally blind repairman who wouldn’t be able to confirm who dropped it off.

But that doesn’t mean the data isn’t true. So far there has been some independent corroboration.


76 posted on 10/17/2020 10:17:35 AM PDT by moehoward (.)
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To: Savage Rider
Copies were said to have been sent to Senator Mike Lee and the FBI. I am wondering why nothing came from Mike Lee.

Mike Lee let loose with a nasty denunciation of Trump. His aspirations to DeepStatehood have been dashed, and he is lashing out.

77 posted on 10/17/2020 10:23:19 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("When you open your heart to patriotism, there is no room for prejudice." --Donald Trump)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Indeed first clue.

A New York tabloid’s **puzzling** account

If the AP can’t cover it up just spin it bend it.


78 posted on 10/17/2020 11:04:06 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Better grab your hip boots to wade through this BS.


79 posted on 10/17/2020 11:08:43 AM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: JustaCowgirl

Not just Pelosi. All of the crooks in Congress. They all enrich themselves and need to be exposed.


80 posted on 10/17/2020 11:37:55 AM PDT by silent majority rising
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