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The US Supreme Court will hear Trump appeal to exclude illegal immigrants from Census count
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Posted on 10/16/2020 2:21:23 PM PDT by janetjanet998

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To: vigilante2

There are quarterly census’s that determine citizenship. By including non-citizens for representation, it dilutes your representation. Let’s say 100,000 people = 1 congressional Rep. Now If a district has 100,000 people, and 100,000 illegals, they get 2 Reps. Hope this explains why this issue is so important. If Trump wins this, everything changes.


61 posted on 10/16/2020 6:35:05 PM PDT by 11th_VA (Ancient Proverb: May you live in interesting times ...)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

It should also include electoral college allocation as well


62 posted on 10/16/2020 7:15:41 PM PDT by suasponte137
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To: a fool in paradise
Do the visitors to Vegas get counted?

On the day that a hotel's census tract gets counted, yes, guests at the hotel get counted.

63 posted on 10/16/2020 7:16:06 PM PDT by Jim Noble
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To: a fool in paradise
If there are 120,000 college students in the Boston area, do they all get counted?

Yes they do.

64 posted on 10/16/2020 7:16:46 PM PDT by Jim Noble
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To: gcparent
It’s ok to count illegals?

If they are persons, yes, they get counted.

65 posted on 10/16/2020 7:17:39 PM PDT by Jim Noble
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To: suasponte137

The EC is determined by the number of representatives allotted to the state plus 2 senators.


66 posted on 10/16/2020 7:19:31 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Where do you find the word "except" in the 2nd Amendment?)
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To: Jim Noble

Even the ones paying out of state tuition for 4 years?

Should we count dual citizens as well?

Then there may really be 12 billion people in this world.


67 posted on 10/16/2020 7:34:57 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Joe Biden- "First thing I'd do is repeal those Trump tax cuts." (May 4th, 2019)l)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

So a reduction in the number House reps from a state like California due to not counting illegals would also equate to a reduction in electoral votes from CA..correct?


68 posted on 10/16/2020 10:04:34 PM PDT by suasponte137
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To: suasponte137

A state’s electoral votes equals its two senators plus its representatives in the House. So, yes. Currently, I believe California has 2S + 54R = 56 EV.


69 posted on 10/16/2020 10:15:43 PM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God IS, and (2) God IS GOOD?)
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To: janetjanet998
Liberal/Progressive heads explode just before the election, just as Trump intends.

Go Trump!

70 posted on 10/17/2020 12:35:40 AM PDT by CptnObvious (Question her now.)
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To: a fool in paradise

I was thinking same thing. Kids at out of state college 21 and over get counted twice???


71 posted on 10/17/2020 5:10:59 AM PDT by gcparent (Justice Brett Kavanaugh)
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To: suasponte137

Correct. https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/07/27/these-states-would-lose-house-seats-under-trump-census-order-952359

It was not yet clear how the census takers would determine the citizenship status of those responding as the Supreme Court last year blocked Trump’s effort to add the question to the census. If his attempt to exclude the illegal immigrants from being counted moves forward, California will end up losing two seats in the House rather than one as was previously expected.

Florida would end up gaining only one seat rather than two and Texas would gain two instead of three, according to the study. But the split of the 435 House seats in the apportionment process will mean three other states, Alabama, Minnesota and Ohio, will end up keeping a seat they each had been set to lose.

According to Pew Research:

In addition to these states, 11 more would gain or lose seats based on population change alone, whether unauthorized immigrants are included or excluded. Five states would gain one seat each: Arizona, Colorado, Montana, North Carolina and Oregon. Six states would lose one seat each: Illinois, Michigan, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island and West Virginia.


72 posted on 10/17/2020 7:07:19 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Where do you find the word "except" in the 2nd Amendment?)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

That’s great information. Thank you very much


73 posted on 10/17/2020 9:46:07 AM PDT by suasponte137
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To: Jim Noble

And they get counted at home as well?


74 posted on 10/18/2020 3:22:57 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Joe Biden- "First thing I'd do is repeal those Trump tax cuts." (May 4th, 2019)l)
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To: Husker24

Reynolds v. Sims (state legislatures) and Wesberry v. Sanders (U.S. House) both say “citizens.”

How can you enforce Amendment XIV without knowing how many citizens there are?


75 posted on 10/19/2020 7:11:46 AM PDT by scrabblehack
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