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That means Trump is up a few points.
1 posted on 10/13/2020 12:30:44 PM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
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To: ChicagoConservative27

For sure.


2 posted on 10/13/2020 12:31:45 PM PDT by HighSierra5
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To: ChicagoConservative27

anyone check the internals?


3 posted on 10/13/2020 12:33:40 PM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (Polls are no longer designed to measure public sentiment but to influence it.)
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Last night at his rally Trump said, quote, “we believe we are winning in Pennsylvania”.


4 posted on 10/13/2020 12:34:45 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27; HighSierra5

You know what?

I would love for there to be an unbiased (don’t laugh), independent site that reviews how ALL Recognized Polls are done and review their accuracy based on percentage of dems/Repubs/Indies, etc...

But in 21 days it won’t matter :)

Trump will be President for another four years.

James Carville will still be ugly.

Cuomo and de blasio will still be ####s

And we’ll have a solid SCOTUS for at least another 4 years.

No, I have no idea why I threw some of those in there :)


5 posted on 10/13/2020 12:36:07 PM PDT by dp0622 (Tried a coup, a fake tax story, tramp slander, Russia nonsense, impeachment and a virus. They lost.)
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There is a reason Skelator has been spending so much time in Pennsylvania lately.


12 posted on 10/13/2020 12:44:01 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

I sure hope so. Trafalgar is probably the most accurate poll. I hope there are enough “shy@ Trump voters to push him over the finish line in Pennsylvania.


15 posted on 10/13/2020 12:46:22 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Chicago Conservative, a paradox in terms by one who lived there for many years and whose family in that area goes back over 150 years and Founders of the Republican party

That area as you well know is infected with parasitic politicians to whom the populace identify and have for generations

If truth is i your words then so be it, otherwise I consider you as one i have rarely seen in my time living there and at best one who says but at the end succumbs and waits till next election to yet again evoke change.

PS - All of my family has since moved as the Blue Nature and corruption endemic in that environment led them to is the juice worth the squeeze?

No

They have moved elsewhere as the natives seek the same rap in a different wrapper and join the team reducing Chicago and environs to a fetid swamp of criminality and corruption of mind, body and soul

Just for reference graduated Lane Tech class of 74, so Yes I have lived there (Logan Square) and I know what I am talking about

Chicagoan’s don’t care and if they do it sure does not show

I chose to leave and have never looked back

God Bless You there, You are gonna need it

Gomorrah on the Lake


16 posted on 10/13/2020 12:50:43 PM PDT by 100American (Knowledge is knowing how, Wisdom is knowing when)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Chicago Conservative, a paradox in terms by one who lived there for many years and whose family in that area goes back over 150 years and Founders of the Republican party

That area as you well know is infected with parasitic politicians to whom the populace identify and have for generations

If truth is i your words then so be it, otherwise I consider you as one i have rarely seen in my time living there and at best one who says but at the end succumbs and waits till next election to yet again evoke change.

PS - All of my family has since moved as the Blue Nature and corruption endemic in that environment led them to is the juice worth the squeeze?

No

They have moved elsewhere as the natives seek the same rap in a different wrapper and join the team reducing Chicago and environs to a fetid swamp of criminality and corruption of mind, body and soul

Just for reference graduated Lane Tech class of 74, so Yes I have lived there (Logan Square) and I know what I am talking about

Chicagoan’s don’t care and if they do it sure does not show

I chose to leave and have never looked back

God Bless You there, You are gonna need it

Gomorrah on the Lake


17 posted on 10/13/2020 12:50:43 PM PDT by 100American (Knowledge is knowing how, Wisdom is knowing when)
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Statistically tied using juiced samples of Ds.


20 posted on 10/13/2020 12:56:21 PM PDT by Jonny7797
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Which means Trump is leading..you have people TERRIFIED to say they are voting for Trump because they dont want their house firebombed. Why would ANYONE in PA vote for Biden who wants to take away their jobs..Biden has said repeatedly he is against fracking


22 posted on 10/13/2020 12:58:32 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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Pffffttt!!!

Not even close...

Hilarious to see Scranton go Trump....


23 posted on 10/13/2020 12:58:58 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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Watch Lakawanna County go Red...


24 posted on 10/13/2020 12:59:59 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/10/27/upshot/pennsylvania-poll.html

Hillary by 7 Oct 2016


28 posted on 10/13/2020 1:04:52 PM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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Mean trumps up about 5.

Eve of election polls had Hillary up from 2-7 points most in the 4ish range and one outlier, trafalgar had Trump up 2. That was the only poll that had him in the lead the week before the election.

If you go back to most polls that were out 3/4 weeks before the election Hillary was up 6-8.

Biden isn’t taking PA. It’s a joke He won PA by .61% in 16. I expect him to win by 3-5% this time.

I am telling you I have never seen anything like what I am seeing for Trump this year ever. Even 16 when I was sure he was winning here, I didn’t see what I am seeing on the ground here.

The only consistent open vocal support advocating Biden I come across are the never Trumpers... even the life long democrat activist have no enthusiasm for Biden or the old mattress.

I am doing the same casual polling I did on 16, and it’s not even a contest.

I tell a joke, but it’s 100% true..

When you leave the urban areas, and do an informal political sign poll, you find Biden is running a distant third, behind Trump and “Corn For Sale”.

I have never seen anything like this, yes the rural parts of the state are more conservative, so seeing more GOP signs there than D signs is typical, but I have never seen anything like this. It’s not 2-1 Trump or 3-1 Trump, or evening 10-1 Trump... it’s around 20-1 Trump... and it’s not the raw number disadvantage is the sheer number of Trump signs period...far far far more homes and businesses have signs than I can ever recall seeing.

The percentage of homes with signs is far far higher than any election I can recall.

I talk and BS with anyone and try to just gauge where they are.. folks I have no idea what their backgrounds are, or political affiliations.. and the story I keep hearing over and over particularly from folks who interact with large swaths of the public is that in the middle class (lower and middle) areas no one over the age of 30 supports Biden

And I believe it.. to call Biden a stillborn would not be an understatement.

Now he won’t get 100% crushed and the games they are playing with the mail in voting will be used to try to sow confusion and prolong the crazy to attempt to prevent an election night call for Trump but Biden won’t take a single state Trump won in 16 and I expect Trump will take most if not all states he lost by less than 5 last time and may pick off one or two he lost by 5-10 last time as well


29 posted on 10/13/2020 1:07:46 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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Trafalgar tries to add in that fearful Trump vote.


35 posted on 10/13/2020 1:19:18 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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Because what PA people want is an end to fracking, mining, more BLM, more woke, more taxes. right.


36 posted on 10/13/2020 1:20:35 PM PDT by TiGuy22
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No way. Biden is up by 34 points. I heard it on fake news.


37 posted on 10/13/2020 1:24:34 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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smart projections having Trump winning by about 130k-200k votes in PA

voter reg trends have been favoring R’s the last 4 years
many of the bellweather counties are trending R
the youth vote is nonexistent

add to it fracking, ACB with the Catholic vote...

its coming together nicely (Trump in PA today!)


38 posted on 10/13/2020 1:36:09 PM PDT by sheehan (DEPORT ALL ILLEGALS.)
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Good, Trump will not win PA by huge margins, it only takes 1% and this looks indicative of that.


39 posted on 10/13/2020 1:38:33 PM PDT by 1Old Pro (FILL THE SEAT)
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That means Trump is up a few points.

Beat me to it, CC27!

41 posted on 10/13/2020 1:44:56 PM PDT by FormerFRLurker (Keep calm and vote your conscience.)
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