Posted on 10/08/2020 5:12:09 PM PDT by rintintin
Dr. John Ioannidis is among a growing number of scientists who believe the current shelter-in-place orders in California continue to impose excessive and potentially harmful measures on most of the population, while failing to adopt strong enough restrictions to adequately protect those who are most vulnerable to the coronavirus.
We can take even more draconian measures to protect people and locations and settings that we know at very high risk, said Ioannidis, a Harvard-trained doctor of internal medicine, infectious disease specialist and professor of medicine at Stanford University.
Ioannidis believes the initial lockdown was the right approach in March, when little was known about COVID-19. Now, however, that more data is available, he is calling for more extreme protections for people who are at high risk of infection, including the elderly and those with heart disease, diabetes and pulmonary disorders.
Vulnerable people, he believes, should continue to shelter in place, and anyone living or working in a high risk setting should receive weekly COVID-19 testing and careful contact tracing. He recommends similar measures for meat packing plants, prisons and especially nursing homes, where Centers for Disease Control data shows about one-third of all deaths have occurred.
At the same time, Ioannidis is convinced that shelter in place orders are doing great harm to the rest of society.
We know that 95% of the population has practically minimal risk, he said, adding It's unlikely that in the current situation we are really saving lives. I think that probably we're killing people by following some of these measures for forever.
According to the American College of Emergency Physicians, 29% of Americans are avoiding or delaying medical care due to fear of catching the coronavirus.
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I’ve already seen one work colleague commit suicide.
Stanford. Really?
Great catch...BOOKMARKED!!!
How awful. I’m so sorry!
The Rats are about destruction.
I know more than one person who relapsed and died.
Amazing that Quarantining the Healthy and Shutting Down ALL Commerce and Socializing for a Virus with a Death Rate on Par with seasonal Influenza has negative side effects.
I used to be a carpenter. I said in early May that this would happen.
Many survive paycheck to paycheck and/or by the daily routine that may provide necessary distractions and connections to others. And it doesn’t take much to trigger and financial or psychological meltdown.
Regrets regarding your colleague — a subject matter the Rats in media refuse to acknowledge.
Not for long.
>> I used to be a carpenter.
There’s no such thing as a former carpenter unless... ;)
No kidding uh? Dayum, it’s not as if a slew of med pros( like yours truly-retired) didn’t tell the world back in March
I used to work as a carpenter.
I am definitely still a carpenter.
He’s been saying this since April.
I'm avoiding it because I don't want to participate in the hysterical overreaction to the coronavirus.
Stanford has had several professors/researchers saying very reasonable things about covid and the lockdown, including Dr. Scott Altas, Trump’s new covid advisor, and Prof. Jay Bhattacharya, one of the writers of the Great Barrington Declaration. As far as I know, they are still employed by Stanford.
I’m glad they’re covering this.
Oh so awful...but I can’t imagine that. You have to go to the store, you have other errands, there are usually neighbors. Why do you think your co-worker did this?
The UK National Health service reported today that for April and May, urgent cancer diagnosis were down 57% (and still down 20+% in September) while urgent breast cancer diagnosis were down 30%.
Many more people will die of cancer because of lock-downs.”
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