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Are America's Wuhan virus death rates lies, damn lies, and statistics? Singapore counts Covid-19 deaths differently from America
American Thinker ^ | 09/28/2020 | Andrea Widburg

Posted on 09/28/2020 11:49:58 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

One of the truisms in life is that you can't compare apples to oranges.  The same is true for comparing certain types of data across different countries.  That's why it's important, when debating America's response to the Wuhan virus, to know that another piece of evidence has emerged indicating that the U.S. is grossly overcounting the number of people who died from the Wuhan virus.  It turns out that, while the U.S. attributed all pneumonia fatalities to the virus, Singapore, which had the lowest fatality count in the world, did not.

The Deccan Herald explains at some length why Singapore performed so wonderfully when it came to its response to the Wuhan virus.  Part of Singapore's success was undoubtedly due to its being a small, tightly controlled country that could immediately do mass testing and contact tracing.  Singapore also instantly hospitalized people, treating them before they had severe symptoms.

The most significant way, though, that Singapore parted ways from other countries — including America — is that it counted deaths according to a narrow, WHO-approved formula:

Singapore sticks rigidly to the WHO's case definitions for classifying Covid-19 deaths. It does not include non-pneumonia fatalities like those caused by blood or heart issues among Covid-19 patients in its official tally.

"I have no doubt that if the WHO revises its case definitions, some of the non-pneumonia deaths will be reclassified and the mortality rate will change," said Paul Tambyah, president of the Asia Pacific Society of Clinical Microbiology and Infection, without specifying how much it would likely shift.

Todd Lowdon decided to calculate America's Wuhan virus death count using the standard that the WHO set and Singapore followed.  The results were stunning:


(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2020; bloggers; coronavirus; covid19; deathrate; deaths; kag; maga; singapore; trump

1 posted on 09/28/2020 11:49:58 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Singapore follows WHO guidelines & doesn't include non-pneumonia fatalities in its death counts. If the US did the same, we'd have reported only 86,000 COVID-19 deaths so far, or 45% of the 190,000 certified by the CDC as of 9/25.

https://deccanherald.com/international/world-news-politics/why-is-singapores-covid-19-death-rate-the-worlds-lowest-888794.html


2 posted on 09/28/2020 11:52:12 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Todd Lowdon
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The ratio of COVID-19 deaths in the US "with" and "without" pneumonia has been fairly consistent at about 45:55. In addition to testing more per capita than any other large country,
the US also adopts a very expansive definition of C19 deaths.


https://cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm


3 posted on 09/28/2020 11:54:28 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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But our Federal Government is paying the bill for the ChiCom Flu cases, just like the poor guy over the weekend that died after a car chase when the Police shot him 9 times, he died of COVID!


4 posted on 09/28/2020 11:55:43 AM PDT by eyeamok
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To: SeekAndFind; neverdem; ProtectOurFreedom; Mother Abigail; EBH; vetvetdoug; Smokin' Joe; ...
I bet Singaporean hospitals didn't get paid a bounty for every COVID case reported, nor an extra bonus for every one put on a ventilator!
Bring Out Your Dead

Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.

The purpose of the “Bring Out Your Dead” ping list (formerly the “Ebola” ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.

The false positive rate was 100%.

At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the “Bring Out Your Dead” threads will miss the beginning entirely.

*sigh* Such is life, and death...

Quarantine the sick. Protect the vulnerable. Free everyone else.

5 posted on 09/28/2020 11:56:34 AM PDT by null and void (Democrats donate to bail money. Republicans donate to scholarships. ~ throwthebumsout)
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Here in rural MO, the only people wearing masks are those required to do so because they work for a national/regional chain. No major outbreak though. In fact, covid cases and even more so deaths, seem to be in the blue areas. St Louis and surrounding is biggest yet we get thousands of people from there coming to this county every weekend for recreation and they don’t wear masks here. Still no outbreak. I wonder if it’s because we have conservatives working in our nursing homes, hospitals, labs and mortuaries that aren’t killing off old people or listing every damn thing as covid because orange man bad? I swear neglect, incompetence and outright murder and fraud are 80% of covid in the US.
6 posted on 09/28/2020 11:58:40 AM PDT by Pollard (You can’t be for “defunding the police” and against “vigilantism” at the same time.)
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Yup, and those obsessed with this flu thingy will never let it go. Every day, several BS stat posts, perpetuating lies and deceit, just like Fauci.


7 posted on 09/28/2020 11:59:26 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore.)
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I got three in my family that now have it, Two are at risk-one being liver failure and the other lung problems, the other my nephew.

I do not know if the two at risk will make it. One is really sick, the other it has effected him in strange ways, and the nephew is mildly sick.

Will wait and see if my niece and her family will get it since they were in close contact.

Time will tell.


8 posted on 09/28/2020 11:59:30 AM PDT by crz
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Now celebrating the Eight Month Anniversary of ‘Two Weeks to Flatten the Curve!’ Woot! Woot!

LIBERATE WISCONSIN! LIBERATE AMERICA!


9 posted on 09/28/2020 12:01:10 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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Are America's Wuhan virus death rates lies, damn lies, and statistics?

Yes, yes and yes.

What did I win?

10 posted on 09/28/2020 12:01:43 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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There must be a normal number of deaths per year in the US, or some anticipated number. Whatever it is, if the WuFlu numbers are legitimate, our current number of deaths nationally should 200,000+ above the number of anticipated deaths.


11 posted on 09/28/2020 12:05:10 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (When your business model depends on slave labor, you're always going to need more slaves)
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Your freedom, if you can claim it.


12 posted on 09/28/2020 12:21:59 PM PDT by null and void (Democrats donate to bail money. Republicans donate to scholarships. ~ throwthebumsout)
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Sorry to hear that, crz. I hope everybody pulls through and recovers well.


13 posted on 09/28/2020 12:25:06 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom ("And oft conducted by historic truth, We tread the long extent of backward time)
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My manager and his family got it, and my sister-in-law and her family all had it. Everyone survived, but my manager is quite overweight and has multiple health issues and he got better after two weeks, but it was somewhat slow. Everyone stayed home.

I hope your loved ones pull through well.


14 posted on 09/28/2020 12:58:02 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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btt


15 posted on 09/28/2020 1:11:26 PM PDT by GailA (I'm a Trump Girl)
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“I wonder if it’s because we have conservatives working in our nursing homes, hospitals, labs and mortuaries that aren’t killing off old people or listing every damn thing as covid because orange man bad?“

Well said.


16 posted on 09/28/2020 1:20:40 PM PDT by enumerated
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everything is lies.. made up to suit the person and/or ambition.

Trump comes to the rat infested town and they ambush him ... 4 years of hits...

the left has lost their minds over Trump.. he is not like the rest in Washington..and they cant stand his successes and his loyal base.

its a battle.. a war...
God bless Trump in all their lies ..all their hits


17 posted on 09/28/2020 1:36:47 PM PDT by frnewsjunkie
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For rapid treatment before hospitalization has to occur. Use the modified Dr. Vladimir 3 part protocol.

IF you can’t take Hydroxychloroquine 200 mg. 2 a day/5 days
then get Quercetin at a health food store, and take
500 mg. twice a day/5 days
If Azithromycin is not available, take Vitamin C 2grams every 4 hours, total 12 grams a day for 5 days. If diarrhea occurs not caused by Covid, then reduce the amount of Vit. C somewhat. After 5 days, gradually reduce the amount while keeping track of respiratory symptoms. Don’t stop suddenly from such a high dose.

Let us know how things turn out and if you try this.

One of the WHO causes of death not considered early on, may now be reconsidered. It has been found the Covid seems to rob red blood cells of their iron component. Thus the rbcs cannot carry much oxygen and it has been found that some of the severe respiratory distress is not caused by the “cytochyme storm” (sp?), but rather like high altitude sickness from a lack of oxygen. It still can kill, and is a Covid death.

Also, in early March, my son who is now with Special Forces in Afghanistan told me WHO was telling our internet media to remove things they did not agree with. At that time they were taking down videos about Vitamin C use in China, and Vitamin C research that was being done there. Since them I have been repeatedly stopped at AOL articles comments sections when I have tried to talk about the importance of using Zinc with HCQ, or other ways of strengthening the immune system using supplements. Or about Dr. Zelenko’s repeated attempts to get the word out on effective early Covid treatment. Somebody really does not want the world to know that zinc is the essential virus stopper to be used with HCQ or Quercetin, or several other ionophores.


18 posted on 09/28/2020 9:53:11 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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