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Vanity: Crafty thieves are stealing our church tithes
Sept 26, 2020 | 11th_VA

Posted on 09/26/2020 8:54:04 PM PDT by 11th_VA

So, as a member of a congregation, I’ve been informed, some members are mailing tithes to the church, since service is via video. Those checks without the full church name, but just church initials (ie; SBC) are being forged and cashed. Sounds like a few thousand is missing at this point - just discovered. Don’t have more details but, you might want to see who’s been cashing your church tithes.


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KEYWORDS: church; crime; theft
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1 posted on 09/26/2020 8:54:04 PM PDT by 11th_VA
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To: 11th_VA

Sounds like an inside job...


2 posted on 09/26/2020 8:56:16 PM PDT by sam_whiskey (Peace through Strength.)
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To: sam_whiskey

Don’t think so - the mail box is 50 yards from the church building. They think that’s what happening - congregational meeting next week


3 posted on 09/26/2020 8:57:56 PM PDT by 11th_VA (ItÂ’s a civilization thing, you wouldnÂ’t Understand)
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To: 11th_VA

Unless the mail is being intercepted en route to the church, someone from the church is stealing. It shouldn’t be too hard to find out who.


4 posted on 09/26/2020 8:59:21 PM PDT by Enterprise
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To: Enterprise

Could be someone from the PO.


5 posted on 09/26/2020 9:00:37 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: 11th_VA

Does your church have online donation/tithe payment capability?


6 posted on 09/26/2020 9:01:09 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: Jane Long

Trust no one. Suspect everyone.


7 posted on 09/26/2020 9:01:11 PM PDT by Enterprise
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To: 11th_VA

The priest or minister should remind everyone what the official name of the church is and that this name (and this name only) is what should be on the check’s payee line.


8 posted on 09/26/2020 9:03:10 PM PDT by Captain Walker ("The side that has truth gets humor with it.")
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To: Jane Long

I don’t think they have online tithes; we have counters


9 posted on 09/26/2020 9:04:00 PM PDT by 11th_VA (ItÂ’s a civilization thing, you wouldnÂ’t Understand)
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To: Captain Walker
that this name (and this name only) is what should be on the check’s payee line.

Yeah - we just got that email

10 posted on 09/26/2020 9:05:14 PM PDT by 11th_VA (ItÂ’s a civilization thing, you wouldnÂ’t Understand)
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To: 11th_VA

Every Church I have belonged to has a policy where only the accountant has access to the tithes. It should not be too hard to request the cancelled checks from the bank and see who endorsed them.


11 posted on 09/26/2020 9:05:42 PM PDT by LukeL
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It should not be too hard to request the cancelled checks from the bank and see who endorsed them

At our church, 3 counters do the counting each week. But now that you mention it, there is a period in the counting process, where one counter makes copies of the checks, and is alone for a period of time. That’s a terrible thought though ...

12 posted on 09/26/2020 9:10:04 PM PDT by 11th_VA (ItÂ’s a civilization thing, you wouldnÂ’t Understand)
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To: 11th_VA

I gave 5 bucks last week and whoever got that is going to need to stretch it out.


13 posted on 09/26/2020 9:26:13 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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It is probably the answer though.

For someone to steal ONLY the checks that had the initials on them they would have to open all the envelopes, sort them and reseal the ones with the church name back in their respective envelopes and sneak them back into the mail.

Not impossible but unlikely.

Something is happening between the time the mail is collected and the checks are entered.

14 posted on 09/26/2020 9:27:24 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (And lead us not into hysteria, but deliver us from the handwashers. Amen!)
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...the mail box is 50 yards from the church building. They think that’s what happening - congregational meeting next week...

I would be meeting with the POLICE before I met with the congregation.

Meeting with the congregation is necessary for transparency and the police may need access to bank accounts that have experienced this forgery, but this is not going to be as difficult crime to solve. Checks leave a paper trail that will point directly to the culprit, but only the police will have bank co-operation in unraveling the paper trail.

15 posted on 09/26/2020 9:32:06 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: 11th_VA

There isn’t much lower than that.

Churches are struggling. As far as I know.


16 posted on 09/26/2020 9:32:49 PM PDT by proud American in Canada (In these trying times, "Give me Liberty or Give me Death!")
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Wow - good analysis, sobering thought. My first thought was an outsider


17 posted on 09/26/2020 9:36:49 PM PDT by 11th_VA (ItÂ’s a civilization thing, you wouldnÂ’t Understand)
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I heard about a guy years ago who would write checks to his church in exchange for cash from the collection plate, then used the cancelled checks to claim a deduction! IRS caught him, though.


18 posted on 09/26/2020 9:37:16 PM PDT by mozarky2 (Ya never stand so tall as when ya stoop to stomp a statist...)
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To: mozarky2

That’s hilarious !!!


19 posted on 09/26/2020 9:41:22 PM PDT by 11th_VA (ItÂ’s a civilization thing, you wouldnÂ’t Understand)
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To: LukeL

Request copies of your tithing checks and check with your ministers what banks they use, as long as the endorsements are correct all is good.


20 posted on 09/26/2020 9:45:31 PM PDT by egfowler3 (American Trump Voter (AKA: Deplorable, Clinger, Christian Infidel & American!))
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