Posted on 09/23/2020 8:26:08 PM PDT by rxsid
bfl
I don’t buy the numbers infected. they have no idea how many are actually infected. There was infection in the US as early as November long before numbers were kept. The RO changes daily as well. Add into that the 40-60% of people that likely have T cell immunity and your numbers fall apart pretty fast. it it makes a great number to scare people with
Just another reason why I am not about to rush out to get vaccinated with a “QUICK” concocted vaccine. In the mean and between time I prefer BHT with little or no known side effects as all it does just kills the virus
Are Moderna Executives Dumping Their Stock?
STORY AT-A-GLANCE -VACCINE FAILURE
• Results from Moderna’s Phase 1 human trial revealed the 100-mcg dose vaccine — which had a 100% side effect ratio after the second dose — is proceeding to Phase 3 trial assessment
• Moderna has no legal rights to a key patent for its vaccine delivery system. Moderna sought to invalidate the patent for lipid nanotechnology owned by Arbutus Biopharma but lost the challenge at the end of July 2020
• Executives at Moderna have cashed in stock options, raking in about $90 million in personal profits since January. Two Moderna executives have now sold off all of their stock holdings in the company, and its general counsel has sold nearly all of hers
• AstraZeneca has temporarily halted its Phase 3 vaccine trials due to “a suspected serious and unexpected adverse reaction” in a British participant
• AstraZeneca did not divulge the nature of the adverse reaction, but an anonymous source claims the trial participant was found to have transverse myelitis, an inflammatory condition that affects the spinal cord and is frequently triggered by viral infections
The U.S. Health and Human Services’ Operation Warp Speed has pledged to deliver 300 million doses of a COVID-19 vaccine by 2021,1 if not sooner.2 However, developing a safe and effective vaccine normally takes years and begins with animal studies. The COVID-19 vaccines are all being rushed straight into human clinical tests, forgoing lengthy animal trials altogether.
Such fast-tracked vaccines pose unknown risks, which are further magnified since governments are granting COVID-19 vaccine makers immunity from liability for all vaccine injuries and deaths that occur after the vaccines are recommended (or mandated) by public health officials.3
At the end of July 2020, AstraZeneca announced4 most countries it expects to supply with COVID-19 vaccine will grant the pharmaceutical company complete liability protection if people are harmed.
In the U.S., vaccine makers already have something of a “free pass” when it comes to vaccine injury liability and lawsuits through the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 19865 and the Public Readiness and Emergency Preparedness (PREP) Act, passed in 2005.6
The main concern is that the combination of COVID-19 vaccines being fast-tracked to market at “warp speed” with minimal testing, together with blanket liability protection against vaccine injuries could be a public health nightmare in the making.
Problems With Moderna’s Vaccine Are Becoming Apparent
Early warning signs that something might be amiss have already started emerging. As detailed in “Gates Tries to Justify Side Effects of Fast-Tracked Vaccine,” results7 from Moderna’s Phase 1 human trial revealed 100% of volunteers in the high-dose group suffered systemic side effects. Side effects included fatigue, chills, headache and myalgia (muscle pain); 21% suffered “one or more severe events.”
According to Bill Gates, those side effects are largely due to the high dosages Moderna had to use in order to achieve desired antibody levels. But, if high dosages are required to create a robust-enough immune response, and higher dosages also cause systemic side effects in nearly all people, just how safe will this vaccination campaign be?
In the 20 years that vaccine makers have tried to develop a coronavirus vaccine, efforts have failed due to dangerous, many times lethal, side effects.
In July, it was reported8 that the 100-mcg dose vaccine — despite its 100% side effect ratio after the second dose — would proceed to Phase 3 trial assessment. In a May 26, 2020, article9 in STAT news, Ian Haydon, one of the Phase 1 study participants who suffered severe side effects requiring hospitalization, stated that while he recovered, the inoculation left him feeling “as sick as he’d ever felt.” As noted by Robert F. Kennedy Jr.:10
“Three of the 15 human guinea pigs in the high dose cohort (250 mcg) suffered a ‘serious adverse event’ within 43 days of receiving Moderna’s jab. Moderna … acknowledged that three volunteers developed Grade 3 systemic events defined by the FDA as ‘Preventing daily activity and requiring medical intervention.’
Moderna allowed only exceptionally healthy volunteers to participate in the study. A vaccine with those reaction rates could cause grave injuries in 1.5 billion humans if administered to ‘every person on earth.’ That is the threshold that Gates has established for ending the global lockdown.
Moderna did not explain why it reported positive antibody tests for only eight participants. These outcomes are particularly disappointing because the most hazardous hurdle for the inoculation is still ahead; challenging participants with wild COVID infection.
PAST ATTEMPTS AT DEVELOPING COVID VACCINES HAVE ALWAYS FALTERED AT THIS STAGE AS BOTH HUMANS AND ANIMALS ACHIEVED ROBUST ANTIBODY RESPONSE THEN SICKKENED AND DIED WHEN EXPOSED TO EITHER THE WILD OR A MUTATED FORM OF SUCH A VIRUS.
“If 60% of people 70-79 become infected and 5.4% die, that’s 3.24% of that group”
If 10% of people 70-79 become infected and 5.4% die, that’s 0.54% of that group
You’re confusing the basic reproduction number with the effective reproduction number. The effective reproduction number changes daily. R0 does not.
And your “T cell immunity” numbers are clearly false as well. If 60% of people already had immunity to a disease with an R0 of 2.5, there would be no infections and no deaths. If 40% had it, New Jersey wouldn’t be sitting at ~28% infected nor New York at ~26% infected with new cases popping up daily. Once you reach HIT, Rt drops below 1 and new infections dwindle towards zero. That has not been observed anywhere in the US.
The thing that scares people more than anything is bad information. It makes it look like we don’t know what’s going on, and fear of the unknown is always much worse than fear of the known. Alfred Hitchcock made a career out of knowing that.
We do know what’s going on. SARS-CoV-2 has infected around 10.4% of the US population. It has an R0 of 2.5, indicating a Herd Immunity Threshold of 60%. 40% of those infected experience no symptoms. Another 40% experience mild to moderate symptoms requiring no medical treatment to recover. 20% will require medical intervention. 3-5% require critical care. 0.65% of those infected will die. We have multiple viable vaccine candidates completing phase 3 human trials right now. Due to President Trump’s negotiations and funding, doses of those vaccines have been manufactured throughout the phase 3 trials, shaving months of time off that timeline. We’ll likely have 2-5 safe and effective vaccines approved by the end of this year. Possibly 1-2 before election day. Tens of millions - possibly 100 million - doses will be available to Americans by the end of this year. Transmissions will slow to a crawl and life will start returning to normal normal early next year.
It’s really not that scary. We know what it is, we know how it spreads, we know how to slow it, and we know how to stop it. The way to alleviate fear is not with misinformation, but with verifiable facts.
60% is based on the Herd Immunity Threshold for a disease with an R0 of 2.5. Which is what SARS-CoV-2 is.
Your 10% number is based on what, exactly?
Where’s the morbidity rates?
Why push Democrat talking points and fearmongering misinformation in the middle of a presidential election?
Why would you try to poke holes in one of the pillars of President Trump’s reelection campaign?
What exactly are you trying to accomplish?
“Spirit”....:)
‘60% is based on the Herd Immunity Threshold for a disease with an R0 of 2.5. Which is what SARS-CoV-2 is.”
Which is totally irrelevant ton this sample.
Really? What is it about people over 70 that exempts them from the mathematics of epidemiology?
This is not a “pandemic”. A “pandemic” would have higher fatality rates.
Sorry, I bow before your superior intellect.
“Really? What is it about people over 70 that exempts them from the mathematics of epidemiology?”
Obviously you do not understand epidemiology and herd immunity.
The herd includes the population of all ages.
Still waiting to hear why SARS-CoV-2 isn’t going to infect more than 10% of persons over 70 years old...
That doesn’t match with the common definitions of the word.
A pandemic is an epidemic which has spread across multiple countries and/or continents. An epidemic is a widespread occurrence of an infectious disease in a community at a particular time.
Clearly COVID-19 is an infectious disease, and clearly it has become widespread, across multiple countries and continents. It is the poster child for the word “pandemic”.
‘Still waiting to hear why SARS-CoV-2 isn’t going to infect more than 10% of persons over 70 years old...”
If the population reaches herd immunity old folks will not. be exposed.
Do your homework.
If you’re trying to claim that the elderly will be protected from exposure from now until herd immunity, I’d love to hear how you think that’s going to happen and when we’re going to start doing that.
So far, there’s been absolutely nothing done in the US to keep the elderly safe from transmission. It’s hard enough to even get people to wear a decent mask properly in the grocery store to reduce the risks of infecting the elderly folks they’re shopping with there. I’ve seen zero evidence of any state in the US successfully reducing the infection risk for the elderly by any measurable amount, let alone as significantly as you’re claiming will happen (an 83% reduction from 60% to 10%).
So by what magic is this all suddenly going to start happening, and when is the scheduled start date for when seniors will no longer get COVID-19?
Whose facts? You have a sitting duck population on a cruise ship only 24% got infected. There is some natural immunity (t cell) not taken into account. I have seen R0 numbers all over the place. At the rate of 1000 deaths per day it would take 3 years to reach your million dead and that’s if the numbers don’t keep dropping. Places like Sweden prove herd immunity is reached with not many more deaths than we have had already. I’m not afraid, far from it. Your numbers are irresponsible and certainly not fact but I’m sure fauci agrees with you so there’s that. I’m leaving for the day but will try to check back later.
“If you’re trying to claim that the elderly will be protected from exposure from now until herd immunity, I’d love to hear how you think that’s going to happen and when we’re going to start doing that.”
We already have. I am there.
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