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Who flipped on the veto override? 24 Democratic votes sustained Gov. Wolf’s veto on high school sports bill
Pennlive ^ | 23 September A.D. 2020 | Jan Murphy

Posted on 09/23/2020 4:22:59 PM PDT by lightman

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To: monkeyshine

Just for giggles, I looked up the state legislature sizes in New England. The smallest general assembly is Rhode Island’s with 75 members. Every other New England state has 150 or more. Makes Pennsylvania look downright economical by comparison.


21 posted on 09/23/2020 5:39:21 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: lightman

Sounds like some certain politicians respond differently and suffer more serious complications mental-wise when it comes to COVID.. like forgetting how they voted earlier.


22 posted on 09/23/2020 5:40:30 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Monthly Donors Rock!!!)
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To: lightman; All

When the God fearing founders of this nation came up with the Republican vs democratic form of governmental representation. They considered that groups we call political partys once elected to a given political office. Could place their groups control and interest above the common good and benefit of the nation once elected to a legislative, executive or judicial office. But would work together for the common interest and that would happen by taking the oath of office.

In an era when a man’s word was considered sacred They truly believed that upon election. requiring taking the oath of office which swears loyalty to abide and support the constitution would take precedence and avert any fractious direction super ceding any political position taken by the group that the office holder associated with before entering .It took the democrat convention of 2012 when they attempted to remove any reference to God, “Our Creator,” to clearly demonstrate that belief no longer applied and when one takes that oath today it means nothing.


23 posted on 09/23/2020 5:48:04 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (mosesdapoet aka L.J.Keslin posting here for the record hoping somebody might read and pass around)
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To: lightman

Dems are going to be slaughtered in Pa.. and they don’t see it coming


24 posted on 09/23/2020 5:56:47 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: shelterguy

With only 80 House members and 40 Senators, the California Legisl00ture is a leftist oligarchy.


25 posted on 09/23/2020 6:00:47 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The Constitution guarantees the States protection against insurrection. Act now, Mr. President!)
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To: Spktyr

I was born and raised in PA. I see how easy it is to simply turn/destroy a state politically. As a result,PA may actually be the key to destroying the nation.


26 posted on 09/23/2020 6:07:22 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: Vigilanteman; Impy; BillyBoy; NFHale; GOPsterinMA; LS; campaignPete R-CT; AuH2ORepublican; ...

I don’t necessarily think it’s a bad thing having such large legislatures. In the case of NH, you can have a personal relationship with your state legislator, as they will only represent a few thousand people.

In CA, with just 80 assemblymembers, each represents a half million people (until fairly recently, that’s what the average U.S. Congressman had as a constituency). That’s so ludicrously out of whack, it’s no wonder the only people most of them (and most are Dems) pay attention to is big labor (big gubmint unions, that is).

You can’t have a personal relationship with a legislator having such a massive constituency. The number of legislators in CA probably should be increased tenfold. Even 800 assemblymembers would be too few (having 50k constituents). Most of these numbers of legislators were set when they had much, much smaller populations. In CA, they’ve had the same 40 Senators since 1863 (when it had just above 400k population) and the same 80 Assemblymembers since 1854 (when it had only 200-250k). So when that number went into effect for the Assembly, each member would’ve ideally had just 2,500 or so constituents (although they were more based on county, so that number could obviously vary). California would need an Assembly of sixteen THOUSAND members (and a Senate of 4,000 (!)) in order to equal that same number of constituents today.

Goes to show you how massively unrepresented most of the country is and far removed from their so-called “elected officials.”


27 posted on 09/23/2020 6:13:35 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Want Stalinazism More ? PLUGS-WHORE 2020 !)
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28 posted on 09/23/2020 7:37:31 PM PDT by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll eventually get what you deserve)
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To: lightman

Florida is going in to week 4 of local football. No problems. Let them play!! Let this be remembered in November!


29 posted on 09/23/2020 7:41:41 PM PDT by government is the beast (In the last century, an estimated 262 million people have been murderd by their own government)
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To: HamiltonJay

Yup, they will lose seats in the House and probably the Senate as well. But first House Republicans need to run the override vote again, so the dems can shoot themselves in the other foot.


30 posted on 09/23/2020 8:23:55 PM PDT by Pennsyltucky Boy (bitterly clinging to our constitutional rights in PA P)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I agree with you. Even our US House should have far more members.

At the founding, one representative for 30,000 citizens was established.

If we kept that mandate, the US House would have nearly 11,000 representatives.

I would hope that the high salaries, pensions and healthcare given to elected representatives would not exist under such a system. It would be truly a citizen legislature.

It would probably spawn more political parties and create the need for coalitions.

Legislation would move more slowly (a good thing).


31 posted on 09/24/2020 12:08:48 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party is communism)
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To: Pennsyltucky Boy

The bill is moot at the moment anyway as the courts struck down the limiting of how many people may assemble...

But I can’t see the lower and middle class parents not exacting revenge on Wolf’s party Nov 3


32 posted on 09/24/2020 3:52:38 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: fieldmarshaldj

If you have too many representatives, you effectively have the equivalent of the Athenian Agora, where everyone was a legislator. It was a mess. But too few is an oligarchy, where the oligarchs are all whores to some special interest or other, and are completely out of touch. Some happy balance must be found. But try telling that to an oligarch, who is perfectly happy being bitch to a union or an industry.


33 posted on 09/24/2020 4:58:54 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (JOBS NOT MOBS!)
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To: monkeyshine
Why they heck do they need 202 people in the PA state legislature? California only has 80.

It's easier to hide in a crowd?

34 posted on 09/24/2020 5:54:31 AM PDT by gogeo (It isn't just time to open America up again: It's time to be America again.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Yeah, the question is what is the proper number ? From a practical standpoint, I don’t know how Senators or Congressmembers can remotely be expected to handle constituents’ issues without an army of employees. It may simply be that the country itself has become far too populous and should be subdivided into manageable areas.

In my city of Nashville, which is about 700,000, one gentleman proposed subdividing the city into separate cities of 50,000 residents each. We’re already being terribly mismanaged with an execrable Mayor and he and the Metro Council are demanding a 1/3rd increase in property taxes in the midst of the present economic situation, which is deranged.


35 posted on 09/24/2020 9:40:46 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Want Stalinazism More ? PLUGS-WHORE 2020 !)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

We need to clone Rudy Giuliani and make his duplicates Mayor of every major metro area. He didn’t need no subdividing, but there’s only one of him, and he’s gotten old.


36 posted on 09/24/2020 9:44:50 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (JOBS NOT MOBS!)
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To: Eleutheria5

The media and left has vilified him, calling him a criminal now because of his associations with our fearless President. It’s disgusting. He proved that good and excellent management IS possible in Demonrat-ruined areas. But as we know, the Demonrats don’t want safe and successful cities, they want chaos and decay. They prefer to be in control and rule hell than be on the sidelines while in heaven.


37 posted on 09/24/2020 9:53:38 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Want Stalinazism More ? PLUGS-WHORE 2020 !)
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1. He proved that good and excellent management IS possible in Demonrat-ruined areas.

2. He has the goods on Quid Pro Joe Biden and his rotten son.

3. His associations with our fearless President.

Strike three! Yer on our sh!t list!


38 posted on 09/24/2020 10:53:14 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (JOBS NOT MOBS!)
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To: gogeo

It’s easier to hide in a crowd?


IMO that’s exactly it. Intentional chaos, voters tune out and don’t know who voted for what, and Assemblypeople get paid and re-elected and have budgets to spend on staff and programming. Though to be fair, the number may have been established 200+ years ago.

I was just shocked because the US House of Representatives “only” has 435 voting members, so why should a single statehouse have half as many?


39 posted on 09/25/2020 2:27:06 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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