Posted on 09/15/2020 8:03:49 AM PDT by MacNaughton
Are wind, solar, and batteries the magical solutions to all our energy needs? Or do they come with too high a price? Mark Mills, Senior Fellow at the Manhattan Institute, analyzes the true cost — both economic and environmental — of so-called green energy.
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PragerU has had many of its videos censored by YouTube.
Go to youtube and search ted talk and nuclear. A lot of former anti-nuclear people are making amazing cases for why you should be a big fan of nuclear if you are a global warming True Believer.
It is also a simple fact that the cost of installation of solar panels to run your house takes about 20 years to recoup in energy produced. What is the life expectation of a solar panel? About 20 years.
I have a relative who is an environmentalist with a big brain. He’s a nuclear fuels engineer, also known as a rocket scientist. He says the best answer is nuclear power. He hates wind power and has testified to state legislatures about why wind is an awful way to generate power.
Planet of the Humans Documentary shows the Green Lies too and how Michael Moore realizes everyone is corrupt and lying. The huge Bio Mass Scam is even worse.
Wind power looks cool as a “futuristic” sort of thing. It’s the day to day reality of it that makes one realize it’s not the way to do things. Forget about all the free bird meat it generates. Once you get over the “futuristic” look of it, it just looks ugly. And makes a very large area ugly.
Great video, though he failed to mention the other inexhaustible energy source - nuclear.
Think of our energy needs like a cake. The only thing solar and wind can ever hope to be is the frosting.
Deindustrialization and dehumanization uses whatever lever is available— that’s the environmental movement. I’m a nuclear engineer worked at a nuke and supported a fleet of nukes— they are too expensive, too risky for shareholders and ratepayers to invest in and build if modeled against current gen or next gen.
Maybe smaller, scalable, expandable next next gen plants that would allow the public and shareholders to consume in more reasonable capital bites.
Not hopeful. The cynic says, these folks wouldn’t mind investment in nukes and cancellations to accelerate deindustrialization.
You can not run a First world, as opposed to a 3rd world, country on solar.
Factories and warehowses and even stores would have an almost impossible, if not impossible, hurdle to get over.
Individuals in sunny warm locations year round who 25k? to invest into a system are free to do so.
I would suggest using propane for power suckers like a frig and a stove.
Windmills and solar are expensive, unreliable and murder birds.
“Great video, though he failed to mention the other inexhaustible energy source - nuclear.”
It looks like there is a new player on the nuclear field:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GFFfmBGb5U&feature=emb_logo
Wind power looks cool as a “futuristic” sort of thing. It’s the day to day reality of it that makes one realize it’s not the way to do things. Forget about all the free bird meat it generates. Once you get over the “futuristic” look of it, it just looks ugly. And makes a very large area ugly.
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Remember The Jetsons? Was that preparatory brainwashing?
Citizens can’t get the bird meat. The areas are fenced off. Can’t walk, camp, hunt, explore, etc. in those areas (mostly). And red blinky lights all night (and day).
Costs more to build and operate than what benefits you’d derive from it; it takes a lot of electricity to operate/run a wind turbine.
About 12 years ago, the company I worked for supplied a solar manufacturer. I learned all I needed to of the scam when I found out that their plants ran 100% on the grid even though they had limitless ability to manufacture and use their own solar cells.
They went bankrupt when a couple smart countries eliminated the solar subsidies.
Solar is fine for small subsistence use, but it’s really stupid for large and industrial use
One fact really stood out was solar and wind hardware have lifespans of about 20 years. Back during the Obama Administration when they were handing out all kinds of subsides for solar, I tried to fight the local school district on a solar project. There was a local Republican committee meeting at our township and the school district's business manager presented the plan for a solar farm at the high school. It was his baby. The plan was written about in the local paper. I used it as the basis for additional research going into the meeting.
I politely questioned him about the ROI on the project - which I had already calculated based on published information about the contract with the solar energy company. Break even on the project was 29 years and some change. The figures that I had didn't include a maintenance agreement so would be much longer until break even, and all the while a negative ROI.
I was told "we" had to adopt new technologies or we would never "progress." He used the analogy that if we never used computers at a loss, that computer technology would not be where it is today. Obviously, a false analogy. The eff'n stupid RINOs in the meeting gave me no support. I was told this was a wonderful thing because so much was being paid for by the electric company, state and federal government. I simply asked, "Who pays the electric company and who pays the taxes to state and federal government?" Then I answered the question, "the same people who pay property taxes to the school district that pays for the rest of the solar project."
This did not register at all.
I can tell you one absolute fact: 50% of Americans have below average IQs. A much larger percentage are poorly educated and lack the ability to critically think. The later end up in local politics.
Some people and countries with a brain are developing smaller thorium reactors and electric power plants. There is little to no meltdown danger. We right-thinking humans will develop the resources. The leftist creepozoids will perish without the energy to cool and heat their homes. The next Ice Age is coming. Nothing we can do will stop the coming global cooling. Nothing. Adapt, or perish.
Solar power in the form of photovoltaics make sense when there is plenty of available sunlight and transmission costs are prohibitive. Like for satellites in orbit. They make no sense at all for people who are already connected to the grid.
It is also a simple fact that the cost of installation of solar panels to run your house takes about 20 years to recoup in energy produced. What is the life expectation of a solar panel? About 20 years.
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I have 12KW PV on the roof and have an 85% warranty for 25 years.
I originally expected a payback of 7 years but it looks like it will be more like 10, as electricity prices go up my payback will go down. I have 5 years under my belt and love having power on the roof.
I made a bad decision when I decided to use a flooded lead acid battery. They work ok but require a lot of attention and I haven’t given them the attention they really demand and have lost a lot of my 3000AH capacity so I am going to replace them with AGM’s. I would have liked to go with Lithium but they are really expensive and require some attention and I don’t want to give the attention they should have. Lithium is 3 or 4 times as expensive as AGM’s but they can be discharged all the way without hurting them very much. AGM’s can take an occasional complete discharge but it will reduce their total life. Since I just use them for backup and can recharge from solar or generator I won’t have to discharge more than about 20% so they will likely last me the rest of my life.
One more thing, my new batteries will not eat up as much of my solar production as my current FLA’s so I will increase my daily production by about 15%, that’s will give me about 9kw a day extra production on a good day.
After 5 years I liked it enough to do the same thing on our 2nd home in Florida where I only had to put 9KW on the roof but because there is so much sun down there the daily total is not much less than in Kentucky. It’s enough to take care of the pool pump, the A/C and the rest of the house.
Energy savings wasn’t my only goal, I wanted to reduce monthly outlays. If I croak my wife won’t have a substantial bill for electricity. I’m still connected to the grid but I wanted to make sure that if there was a $#!+ hits the fan situation I would not lose all the storage in my freezers and I really like summer time air conditioning. Payback is not the only goal or only advantage of solar.
Solar is getting less and less expensive. It will one day be cheaper than the grid and most people will get it.
bkmk
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