Cue the long line of antivaxxers who will now show up and spew false talking points to to make themselves feel better about not getting a vaccine so we can’t get back to normal.
It’s fun to watch this group say the most blatantly unscientific things to drive their agenda. And yet they don’t know what a seventh grade biology text book teaches.
Buckle up. It’s kind of fun to watch the stupidity on display
I’m not an anti-vaxxer, but vaccines that were rushed to market have a spotty track record. Look at the one before the 1976 election.
Well, if you get the vaccine and are protected from The Virus, why the hell would you care if anyone else was vaccinated or not?
“Buckle up. It’s kind of fun to watch the stupidity on display”
I see stupidity displayed in your post.
It’s unfortunate that so many on this board are anti vaccine folks. I still blame a lot of it on public health officials for not getting campaigns together to address it and stop it in its tracks.
I am with Trump on this all the way and thrilled we may very well have a vaccine that has gone through a successful phase 3 shortly and will have been manufactured for use. It is an amazing accomplishment.
UN Forced to Admit Gates-funded Vaccine is Causing Polio Outbreak in Africa
The vaccine(s) must be found to be safe and effective, and FDA approved. There will probably be reports in respected medical/scientific journals at the time when this happens.
Then EVERYBODY should take them, in the appropriate order—health workers first, vulnerable populations next, etc. etc.
When all is said and done, we should get back to NORMAL—NOT the “new normal” that leftists wish to impose!!!!
By the way, from the doctor’s I talked to immunity only last a few months and that includes the vaccine.
I am far from an antivaxxer but I won’t be getting this one.
I don’t need a vaccine for something I don’t have to worry about. Vaccines work but why bother for something that doesn’t kill anyone or make people my age sick?
Lighten up Karen.
Okay, Karen. Spoken like a true leftist.
Question: If the vaccine is the best thing since sliced bread, why do you care if some people refuse it? If said vaccine is effective, and you take it, then why does it matter to you if other people refuse?
I possess a weapon which is more powerful than any vaccine: My incredibly powerful immune system. I haven’t had the flu in at least twenty years. Catching a virus is VERY, VERY hard to do.
I’m not risking my health for a dangerous rushed vaccine. I’m not pathetic enough to be scared of a virus with a 99.9% survival rate.
The US could open up completely if the Demonrats and RINO’s wanted to. But opening up would destroy the “We’re all going to die!!” And “the WEAR YOUR SLAVE MASK!!!” Narratives.
Eighty years old Nanzi Pelosi is obviously not worried about the virus, so why should I be worried?
I'm not an anti-vaxxer but I'm not about to take a vaccine that has been rammed through to meet a political deadline. I'll wait a bit for the the well-tested version.
The success of a vaccine in heling the patient AND the herd depends up the Vaccine Effectiveness (VE) and mutation likelihood. Regarding the VE for the COVID19 vaccine, we are just guessing. It should be greater than 50% per CDC, the head of Warp Speed "wouldn't be surprised" if it was around 90%, and Fauci would "settle" for it being between 70% and 75%. That's comforting.
For comparison, the VE for the 3 doses of the polio vaccine is around 99%, up from 70%-95% in the Francis Field Trial. However, the Cutter incident is a reminder that operational risk is real and cannot be wished away. Also, the polio vaccine's VE reflects over 60+ years of refinement and polio hasn't mutated until recently.
In contrast, the annual VE for influenza (which mutates) ranged from 60% to 19% over the past decade. So while vaccines on (relatively) non-mutating viruses like polio can have high VEs at inception, they carry operational risks that give people pause. The science on mutating Coronaviruses like influenza reveal a VE below coin-toss proportions (actually the influenza average VE was 43.8% over the last decade). Small wonder large proportions of people don't want the vaccine (though I'm not a big polls=truth guy). <>Finally, and not insignificantly, the estimated Case Fatality Rate (CFR) for COVID19 is 0.4%. That's not quite as low as the 0.1% CFR for influenza, but it's not smallpox or Ebola..or other things:
| Lifetime odds of death for selected causes, United States, 2018 | |
|---|---|
| Cause of Death | Odds of Dying |
| Heart disease | 1 in 6 |
| Cancer | 1 in 7 |
| All preventable causes of death | 1 in 25 |
| Chronic lower respiratory disease | 1 in 26 |
| Suicide | 1 in 86 |
| Opioid overdose | 1 in 98 |
| Motor-vehicle crash | 1 in 106 |
| Fall | 1 in 111 |
| Gun assault | 1 in 298 |
| Pedestrian incident | 1 in 541 |
| Motorcyclist | 1 in 890 |
| Drowning | 1 in 1,121 |
| Fire or smoke | 1 in 1,399 |
| Choking on food | 1 in 2,618 |
| Bicyclist | 1 in 4,060 |
| Sunstroke | 1 in 7,770 |
| Accidental gun discharge | 1 in 9,077 |
| Electrocution, radiation, extreme temperatures, and pressure | 1 in 12,484 |
| Sharp objects | 1 in 29,483 |
| Hot surfaces and substances | 1 in 45,186 |
| Hornet, wasp, and bee stings | 1 in 53,989 |
| Cataclysmic storm | 1 in 54,699 |
| Dog attack | 1 in 118,776 |
| Lightning | 1 in 180,746 |
| Railway passenger | Too few deaths in 2018 to calculate odds |
| Passenger on an airplane | Too few deaths in 2018 to calculate odds |
In conclusion, folks who don't wish to take a vaccine a few days after it's been approved and where the operational kinks may not have been worked out, that might work some of the time on a virus that kills an estimated 0.4% of people afflicted with symptoms (wherein 94% of those killed have at least one comorbidity), aren't anti-vaxxers...they're actually pretty rational creatures.
I’ll get the vaccine as soon as it’s available. In fact, I volunteered for the phase 3 trials but was never contacted.
I’m sick of the masks, the small groups, the social distancing, seeing businesses suffer or go belly-up, the deaths and hospitalizations, and I’m sick of rolling the dice with the virus. All these things will continue for a significant and IMO needless period of time if enough people refuse the vaccine
Not an anti-vaxer, certain ones work well. No way in HELL will I take this vaccine. Last 1 was Swine Flu, ER trip due to 2 weeks of bathroom hell. IV for dehydration as I do know how to treat it. Specialist advised no more vaccines, to many health issues.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/supreme-court-rejects-vaccine-lawsuit/
In a 6-2 decision, the justices said Congress had effectively shut the courthouse door to these lawsuits in 1986, when it created a special vaccine court designed to compensate victims of vaccine injuries.
The decision immediately was hailed by the American Academy of Pediatrics, which said it would safeguard the nation's vaccine supply by protecting vaccine makers from potentially crippling legal liability--which could have driven manufacturers out of the vaccine market.
Fauci, Gates, et al got nothing to worry about, that's why they all got them crocodile smiles.