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Pres. Trump Please Force Google to Open Its API Database to a Public Commons
Stand United ^ | 09-04-2020 | CharlesOconnell

Posted on 09/04/2020 7:02:57 AM PDT by CharlesOConnell

Please sign the petition if you agree.

Force Google to Share its Monopolized Data (API) as a Public Commons. Google can't "own" the data in its database, that is intellectual property belonging to its content creators of all sizes, most small, average writers, thinkers and artists. Dr. Robert Epstein, testifying before the U.S. Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on the Constitution on June 16, 2019, advocated the most equitable solution, for the U.S. Government to mirror AT&T's 1956 anti-monopoly Consent Decree sharing its technical patents with all other companies free of charge, resulting in vastly increased technical development and economic prosperity. Ask President Trump to force Google to share the data it has monopolized, (its API, its Application Program Interface), with all other search engines, even the smallest, so that the world doesn't permanently fall under the shadow of Google's tyrannical content viewpoint discrimination and political manipulation capable of altering election results and skewing government power to serve only an elite minority.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: api; commons; google; trump

1 posted on 09/04/2020 7:02:57 AM PDT by CharlesOConnell
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To: CharlesOConnell

An API is not data. Data is not an API.

An API is the interface by which you manipulate data.

In other words, if this was a candy bar, your petition is demanding that Google hand over the wrapper. This is dumb.


2 posted on 09/04/2020 7:09:16 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: CharlesOConnell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aq_1l316ow8

3 posted on 09/04/2020 7:15:55 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

Dr. Epstein may be dumb, as I am, but his wife died “mysteriously” after he was warned that they were after him. The “dumb” people are the ones who do most of history, despite the bling of tyrants and billionaires.


4 posted on 09/04/2020 7:18:05 AM PDT by CharlesOConnell (CharlesOConnell)
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To: CharlesOConnell

Not touching that with a 1000 meter pole, just commenting that the very core of this petition was written by some idiot that doesn’t have any idea what they’re talking about with regards to a computer. There are normal 8 year old children who know what an API is better than the writer of this crap.

Put yet another way, if Google was a cereal company, you just asked them to surrender the shrinkwrap around the pallet of cereal boxes. And the pallet. Google can keep or sell the rest. So you get the part that gives you nothing and Google gets to keep the important bits. Again, the technical demand of the petition is fundamentally incorrect and stupid.


5 posted on 09/04/2020 7:22:14 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: CharlesOConnell
(And, dumb as I am, I already knew what an API is, I got an A+ in Java in a totally online course in 2012 using the omnibus coding platform Eclipse, a user community API the user has to configure, after the professor forbade us to do it.)


6 posted on 09/04/2020 7:22:31 AM PDT by CharlesOConnell (CharlesOConnell)
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To: CharlesOConnell

Talking to yourself much? (Your reply was from yourself to yourself.)

If you know what an API is, why did you post a petition that on its face is demanding an API, thinking it was data?


7 posted on 09/04/2020 7:23:58 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr
A distinction without a difference: It isn't about computer-geekdom, it's about how the crooked courts can be forced to stop working with the leftist disninformation mafia while the bad guys are temporarily kept away from the levers of power. Thomas Sowell notes in his intellectual histories of the self-satisfied elites, that while most people attain competency in extremely narrow specialties, the moment they step outside of their spotlight, they're in complete darkness but don't understand that fact. You may be an excellent harrasser, known colloguially as a troll, but your self-proclaimed computer-geekdom doesn't count with the high-priced lawyers, it's all about who can manipulate the courts, it's legal, not computer-geek. In 25 years your geekx-pertise will be only a footnote in dusty history nobody knows about anymore, or cares. But if Google can be caponized, however it's done, that's good. So why don't you go grab your java, take a walk, go down by a creek, but don't jump in! If you need to hold your breath until you turn blue, at least sit down before you start.
8 posted on 09/04/2020 7:37:24 AM PDT by CharlesOConnell (CharlesOConnell)
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To: CharlesOConnell

Psst - by trade I am an IT consultant who is not infrequently deposed by lawyers as well as testifying in court from time to time. So, yes, my experience and knowledge *does* count with the high priced lawyers.


9 posted on 09/04/2020 7:44:35 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: CharlesOConnell

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If I pull data from any given public source into a database, and use that data to do “stuff”, you have no right to the database, nor the algorithms and processes that made it possible.

I wrote the software, created the database, and executed it on hardware I paid for.

If you want to go after Google for being evil, there are other ways to do it.


10 posted on 09/04/2020 7:48:23 AM PDT by TheZMan (I am a secessionist.)
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To: Spktyr

There’s a lot of ignorance going on here. I’ve had my share of parsing stuff that sent people to jail for non-trivial durations.


11 posted on 09/04/2020 7:49:55 AM PDT by TheZMan (I am a secessionist.)
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To: TheZMan

Well, that *was* why I posted the ‘That’s not how any of this works’ meme up there. :P

Whoever wrote it doesn’t know how computers work let alone intellectual property works.


12 posted on 09/04/2020 7:59:15 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: TheZMan

One better way to do it would be to enforce actual net neutrality against them - no censuring any non-violent and legal political material.


13 posted on 09/04/2020 8:00:58 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: CharlesOConnell

Was this just product placement for Diet Coke?


14 posted on 09/04/2020 8:40:47 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: CharlesOConnell

I work in IT and I think it is a really good idea.

Thank you for posting this.


15 posted on 09/04/2020 9:00:11 AM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

At least we’re talking. Non-ad-hominem-attack position statements reflect quiet self-confidence.


16 posted on 09/04/2020 12:28:28 PM PDT by CharlesOConnell (CharlesOConnell)
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