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Kyle Rittenhouse and The Law of the Pursuer
American Thinker.com ^ | August 30, 2020 | Civis Americanus

Posted on 08/30/2020 5:10:51 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Beagle8U

10 U.S. Code § 246? Thank you! That should help, if it ever comes to trial.


41 posted on 08/30/2020 6:47:27 AM PDT by Buttons12
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To: Deaf Smith
Rittenhouse worked as a lifeguard in Kenosha.

I know his lawyer claimed that but other sources say he was laid off his job as a lifeguard in suburban Chicago back in March. So who knows?

42 posted on 08/30/2020 6:48:25 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: marktwain
They can say it, but it probably won't hold up.

We'll see.

There are several cases where felons, armed in violation of the law, were found to have acted in self-defense, then charged with felon in possession of a firearm.

I don't think Rittenhouse had been convicted of a felony prior to this. And if he is convicted of open carry while under age then that's a misdemeanor.

In this case, I expect the defense to challenge the constitutionality of the Wisconsin law, because it makes no provision for security or defense, which are specifically protected in the Wisconsin Constitution.

It's not a law so much as a legal doctrine. So I imagine the defense will claim he is covered under that doctrine while the prosecution will claim he isn't.

43 posted on 08/30/2020 6:51:24 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Williams

See this detailed thread with texts, photos, videos and analysis:

“The Kenosha Shootings / Kyle Rittenhouse: A Tactical and Legal Analysis: UPDATED: 1st Shooter ID’d?”
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3879040/posts


44 posted on 08/30/2020 6:52:20 AM PDT by CedarDave (Celebrating over 20 years as a Free Republic member and supporter.)
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To: SoCal Pubbie
Is it a fact that a 17-year old cannot legally carry such a weapon in public there? Can an adult do so?

In Wisconsin a 17 year old can legally open carry a rifle. The law is totally clear that a 17 year old who is under the supervision of an adult, or who has passed the Wisconsin hunter safety course can open carry a rifle.

More detailed analysis of the Wisconsin law by some attorneys suggests that there are no particular restrictions on 17 year olds other than a prohibition on their carrying of short barrel rifles and shotguns.

45 posted on 08/30/2020 6:52:52 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: Kaslin
U.S. common law is based on English Law. American law is on a continuum of with English Law. Blackstone is considered fundamental to understanding American Law. American courts have interpreted self-defense consistent with Blackstone for 200 years. (In the Perry Mason novels, there is a bust of Blackstone in Perry's office. In the TV series, they made due with a bust of Voltaire as a stand in for Blackstone.)

William Blackstone, The TV Office Bust


46 posted on 08/30/2020 6:54:24 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets ("Women's intuition" gave us the Salem witch trials and Kavanaugh hearings. Change my mind.)
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To: Kaslin; Beagle8U

Given the militia law pointed out by Beagle, Rittenhouse is unorganized militia at age 17, and perhaps all these “age 18” laws have never been challenged.
Nowadays most people clear high school at 18, so it’s customary to consider them adults at that point. But if federal law says 17...law trumps custom.


47 posted on 08/30/2020 6:55:41 AM PDT by Buttons12
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To: DoodleDawg
He didn't work in Kenosha.

The facts refuting the leftist media lie that you have repeated here have been available for a couple days. Thanks for spreading the leftist narrative and letting everyone here know where you get your information. By repeating a known lie about a minor on a public forum, you may be opening yourself up to legal jeopardy.

He was working as a life guard in Kenosha. Earlier in the day he was also working with a group to clean up the mess that rioters had made the night before at a local school and at local businesses. He and a friend he were also working to help keep local small businesses from being destroyed by rioters.

Now, go look up the facts from sources other than CNN and MSNBC.

48 posted on 08/30/2020 6:56:46 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: DoodleDawg
Since Rittenhouse went into a riot area, armed in violation of the law and in violation of the curfew,

Those conditions aren't true, so there is no basis for your analysis.

Rittenhouse worked in Kenosha, and was with a group of people he knew in the area where the rioting happened before the rioting even started. Going to work as a lifeguard at a pool isn't illegal.

It is very likely that Rittenhouse's carrying of the rifle was legal under Wisconsin law.

Rittenhouse was present before the curfew, and he like everyone else in the neighborhood was trying to deal with the ramifications of the government's abject failure to enforce the curfew.

The predicament Rittenhouse ended up in was a direct result of the blundering police. The police drove the rioters towards where Rittenhouse and others were, and then after Rittenhouse provided medical aid to injured people the police were ignoring, the police prevented Rittenhouse from returning to the building where he and others were sheltering from the riot.

49 posted on 08/30/2020 6:58:39 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: representativerepublic
And now that information has the [surviving] pursuer now says he wished he had pulled his gun out sooner and emptied the magazine (paraphrased).

You need to refer to him by his new name: Lefty!

50 posted on 08/30/2020 6:58:47 AM PDT by CedarDave (Celebrating over 20 years as a Free Republic member and supporter.)
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To: texas booster

btt

Rodef = One Who Pursues


51 posted on 08/30/2020 6:59:55 AM PDT by Theophilus (we will remember the name of the Lord our God)
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To: DoodleDawg

You are incorrect...he DID work in Kenosha.


52 posted on 08/30/2020 7:00:00 AM PDT by 6ppc (Democrats would have to climb Everest to reach the level of "scum of the earth")
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To: DoodleDawg
He didn't work in Kenosha.

That's not what Rittenhouse's attorneys have said. Do you have better evidence than them? If so let's see it.

53 posted on 08/30/2020 7:00:24 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: Kaslin; DoodleDawg
I don’t know, but it seems to me if he was using his weapon and shot the person, he’s guilty.

You two have got a cute little exchange going on here don't you? Way to go, but I think all the two of you are accomplishing here is outing yourselves as drones that buy into the leftist media lies and narratives. Do both of you also have Black Lives Matter signs in your front yard?

54 posted on 08/30/2020 7:02:38 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: freeandfreezing

Apparently 17 year olds can be charged as adults in Wisconsin. Seems like you could argue this implies that he is, indeed, an adult and therefore should be treated as adult when it comes to carrying firearms.


55 posted on 08/30/2020 7:05:16 AM PDT by 6ppc (Democrats would have to climb Everest to reach the level of "scum of the earth")
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To: freeandfreezing; DoodleDawg
Those conditions aren't true, so there is no basis for your analysis.

DoodleDawg has been spreading the false narrative to the point that I believe he is opening himself up to legal jeopardy.

56 posted on 08/30/2020 7:06:26 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: fireman15
The facts refuting the leftist media lie that you have repeated here have been available for a couple days.

Where?

57 posted on 08/30/2020 7:09:45 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: freeandfreezing
Those conditions aren't true, so there is no basis for your analysis.

Actually they are. Open carry in Wisconsin is legal for those 18 and above. Rittenhouse is 17. There was a curfew in effect at the time of the shooting so everyone involved was guilty of violating that.

58 posted on 08/30/2020 7:11:33 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: freeandfreezing
That's not what Rittenhouse's attorneys have said. Do you have better evidence than them? If so let's see it.

According to the Chicago papers he didn't.

59 posted on 08/30/2020 7:12:09 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: fireman15
You two have got a cute little exchange going on here don't you? Way to go, but I think all the two of you are accomplishing here is outing yourselves as drones that buy into the leftist media lies and narratives. Do both of you also have Black Lives Matter signs in your front yard?

Whatever.

60 posted on 08/30/2020 7:12:58 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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