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'COBOL Cowboys' Aim To Rescue Sluggish State Unemployment Systems
npr ^ | April 22, 2020

Posted on 08/20/2020 7:44:40 AM PDT by 11th_VA

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To: 11th_VA

Heard some jerk call it “Cobalt” the other day. The language is not obsolete. It runs quite well and is great for typical business systems because it incorporates a clear file layout and record description in a quasi-English language style, among other reasons.


61 posted on 08/20/2020 9:47:30 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Voltaire: To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

>>The average COBOL programmer is like, what, 65 years old now<<

Something like that, sonny.

Get the heck off my PROCEDURE DIVISION.!

Fun Fact: One of the heads up displays in the 1st Terminator movie was a COBOL source listing.


62 posted on 08/20/2020 9:59:18 AM PDT by freedumb2003 ("Do not mistake activity for achievement." - John Wooden)
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To: Chode

>> CICS baby.<<

I always pronounced it See Eye See Ess.

NEVER “kicks.” I hated that as an acronym.

No acronym for BMS btw ;)


63 posted on 08/20/2020 10:00:53 AM PDT by freedumb2003 ("Do not mistake activity for achievement." - John Wooden)
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To: 11th_VA
I was a FORTRAN and ASSY programmer - retired now. Funniest piece of code I ever debugged had a comment, “You should never get here”

MY favorite as a COBOL programmer was the random ***DO NOT REMOVE THIS COMMENT*** that is somewhere in almost every single COBOL system.

The scary thing was, remove that comment and the program crashes.

64 posted on 08/20/2020 10:04:45 AM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes Sweetest to those who have fought to preserve it!)
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To: PAR35
Shouldn't that be GROSS_PAY ?

Depends on your salary. ;-)

65 posted on 08/20/2020 10:05:27 AM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes Sweetest to those who have fought to preserve it!)
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To: 11th_VA

L8R


66 posted on 08/20/2020 10:21:22 AM PDT by bassmaner (Hey commies: I'm a white male, and guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white g uilt' elsewhere)
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To: PROCON

“I learned BASIC, COBOL, RPG back in 1975.”

Me too. Same time. You forgot Fortran. My first programming job was Weiland DDA checking account software in Assembly language. I could have gotten filthy rich if I’d wanted to. Assembly language would melt basement dwellers minds these days. Especially the hex dumps.


67 posted on 08/20/2020 10:39:32 AM PDT by dljordan
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To: FreshPrince

“In an era where computers are obsolete in no time the AS400 is still being made since 1985? by IBM. “

People still use them. Remember the IBM 8100? POS!


68 posted on 08/20/2020 10:41:44 AM PDT by dljordan
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To: PROCON

i learned all three in 87-89


69 posted on 08/20/2020 10:55:02 AM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!at)
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To: 11th_VA

” It’s an association of programmers who specialize in the Eisenhower-era computer language. “

“Eisenhower era”.

False impression.

It was still in high demand all over IT departments in the 1980s, and continued an active life into the early 2000s while new apps were being built on database systems promoting for PC-connected networks.

Some very large companies still have batch COBOL programs maintaining legacy databases that continue to interface with the most recently developed systems. IBM mainframe systems concurrently run virtual network servers and legacy systems. There is always cost-benefits to considering IT developments and one of the maxims is if it’s not broke don’t fix it. But where many IT departments have failed in managing new developments is not knowing how to distinguish between that maxim and “change”, which is not the same as “fix”.


70 posted on 08/20/2020 11:08:19 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: 11th_VA

All of the banks and government agencies still running this stuff are going to be in some trouble.

It reminds me of my late father-in-law, who was a diemaker for one of the Big Three in Detroit. After he put in for his retirement it suddenly dawned on the brass “Oh, sh*t, we haven’t trained any of these guys in, like, 30 years!”

They threw a bunch of money at him to get him to stay and mentor some apprentices. But being UAW he told them to cram it and headed off to Florida.


71 posted on 08/20/2020 11:31:00 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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To: dljordan

Never heard of the 8100...


72 posted on 08/20/2020 11:47:45 AM PDT by FreshPrince
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To: FreshPrince

“Never heard of the 8100...”

You’re blessed.


73 posted on 08/20/2020 11:49:01 AM PDT by dljordan
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To: Buckeye McFrog
But being UAW he told them to cram it and headed off to Florida.

When I was laid off via HR letter, My going away email had a link to this song: Song

74 posted on 08/20/2020 11:50:56 AM PDT by 11th_VA
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To: PROCON
I learned BASIC, COBOL, RPG back in 1975.

I started teaching those three along with C, fortran, pascal, 8080 series assembler, from 1979 thru 1988 at the 2 year college night courses. Churned out a lot of COBOL programmers in those years.

75 posted on 08/20/2020 11:57:51 AM PDT by redcatcherb412
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To: freedumb2003

interesting, never heard it called kicks before


76 posted on 08/20/2020 12:03:53 PM PDT by Chode (Send bachelors and come heavily armed.)
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To: 11th_VA

I once worked for a retail company that filed Chapter 11 bankruptcy and thus got out of paying me a $7000.00 bonus I had earned.

When I left the company I was asked to complete an exit interview. One of the questions was “What were the three best things about being an employee of Acme Department Stores?”

My answer:

1) Employee Incentive Bonus Program (when the bonuses are actually paid)

2) Employee Stock Option Program (when the stock is actually worth something)

3) Free Coffee in lounge

I always imagined my exit interview ended up on a dartboard someplace at the Home Office.


77 posted on 08/20/2020 12:04:35 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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To: redcatcherb412

And of course COBOL and the other early computer languages were input on punch cards!


78 posted on 08/20/2020 12:05:00 PM PDT by PROCON (Voting Democrat in November is tantamount to kneeling on the throat of Lady Liberty.)
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To: 11th_VA

I was still working in COBOL as recently as 10 years ago. The legacy systems are out there.


79 posted on 08/20/2020 12:05:32 PM PDT by asformeandformyhouse (I've been listening to a lot of rap music lately. Mostly at red lights and stop signs.)
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To: Yo-Yo

Ha — perfect.


80 posted on 08/20/2020 12:07:59 PM PDT by Yardstick
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