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White House Signs $1.5 Billion Vaccine Deal With Gates-backed Moderna
New American ^ | 8/13/2020 | Luis Miguel

Posted on 08/16/2020 4:20:58 PM PDT by Sioux-san

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To: familyop

Interesting non-responses, psyop, diversionary false logic, etc.

JUst get your Jab and leave the rest of us alone.


61 posted on 08/16/2020 8:20:35 PM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: familyop

Post a list of Moderna vaccines that worked.


62 posted on 08/16/2020 8:21:40 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: Sioux-san
"would you have us Decliners quarantined permanently?"

No, because that wouldn't make any sense, either. Do what you want to do.

63 posted on 08/16/2020 8:25:24 PM PDT by familyop ( "Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy".)
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To: Sioux-san
"Bottomline is that Trump and Congress have taken away any worries of liability to the Jab Companies. The first round of Jabs no matter what country is doing them will show no ill effx - probably just saline. Confidence will rise and they’re off to the races. The 5g triggering mechanism is a subject for another time."

"5g triggering mechanism?" What's that?

64 posted on 08/16/2020 8:35:52 PM PDT by familyop ( "Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy".)
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To: Sioux-san

If it passes phase 1, phase 2, and phase 3 clinical trials, then it has been tested on tens of thousands of volunteers for months on end using all the normal safety protocols as anything else.

So yes, without a second thought. And doing so will help contribute to the end of the lockdowns and the masks and all the rest of this nonsense.


65 posted on 08/16/2020 8:38:49 PM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest
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To: spacejunkie2001

Make your own choices for yourself and your family using whatever information you choose to trust. I have no quarrel with that. My only quarrel is when misinformation, fake news, and fearmongering are spread about so as to influence others who are trying to make the right decision for their own families. Not accusing you of doing so; just speaking generally.

It is immoral to use lies and fear to manipulate people.


66 posted on 08/16/2020 8:42:57 PM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest
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To: WildHighlander57

“Have you a source for this:”

lots:

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/genetic-engineering-could-make-a-covid-19-vaccine-in-months-rather-than-years1/

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41563-020-0746-0

https://labblog.uofmhealth.org/rounds/top-5-covid-19-vaccine-candidates-explained

https://www.ajmc.com/view/experts-highlight-covid-19-vaccine-developments-and-remaining-challenges

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2020/05/moderna-coronavirus-vaccine-how-it-works-cvd/#:~:text=The%20surface%20of%20the%20SARS,it%20can%20establish%20an%20infection.

https://massivesci.com/articles/mrna-vaccine-covid19-coronavirus-moderna/

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/mrna-vaccines-covid-19-180975330/

https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19/87933

https://cen.acs.org/pharmaceuticals/vaccines/coronavirus-help-mRNA-DNA-vaccines/98/i14

https://www.phgfoundation.org/briefing/rna-vaccines

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMcibr2009737

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1986720/

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/02/mysterious-2-billion-biotech-revealing-secrets-behind-its-new-drugs-and-vaccines

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/coronavirus-vaccine-race-messenger-rna-imperial-college/2020/07/05/6565b2d0-ba2e-11ea-97c1-6cf116ffe26c_story.html

https://www.biopharmadive.com/news/coronavirus-moderna-mrna-vaccine-fda/575942/

https://theconversation.com/coronavirus-a-new-type-of-vaccine-using-rna-could-help-defeat-covid-19-133217

i could post dozens more, but i think you’ll get the idea from the above links ...


67 posted on 08/16/2020 9:03:22 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Karl Spooner

The whole company is just 9 years old. Their COVID-19 vaccine has passed human clinical trials for phase 1 and phase 2. They’re beginning the final phase (phase 3) right now.

If their approach works (and granted, that remains to be seen), it holds the promise of delivering much faster and cheaper vaccines. This is especially critical for Influenza, which has multiple strains - any of which can become active within human populations in any given season - each of which rapidly mutates. Traditional vaccines take months to culture and manufacture. An mRNA vaccine could have doses prepared in weeks. This could keep us ahead of Influenza and save tens of thousands of American lives each year. If it works, which is not yet a given. But the payoff makes it worth at least trying.


68 posted on 08/16/2020 9:22:41 PM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest
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To: catnipman

I get what’s actually happening from the above links: which is that you put mRNA for antigen glycoproteins with ribosomes and they produce the antigen for the target virus. All perfectly normal behavior for a ribosome. The immune system recognizes the antigens as foreign and develops T-cell and B-cell responses, which then provide lasting immunity.

All done without the need to culture any materials or deal with any complicated splicing to get the wanted antigen onto a harmless virus (i.e. gen 2 vaccines). There is no genetic modification taking place. There is no editing your genes or your chromosomes. There is no damage to your body.

Just ribosomes making glycoproteins as they always do and the immune system reacting to foreign material in a way that builds future immunity.

The rest is pure fear, paranoia, luddite thinking with lots of conspiracy laden nonsense packed into it.


69 posted on 08/16/2020 9:27:45 PM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Oh come on... one can dream can’t they? Lol :-)


70 posted on 08/16/2020 9:41:11 PM PDT by Ros42
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To: Sioux-san
I don't suppose it's because there's reason to believe they have a better chance of an effective vaccine with a reasonable cost....

I detest what Gates and Soros and Fauci are doing but I won't jump the shark every time someone finds a reason to carp based on opinions and without direct knowledge of the actual facts....it 's what the mindless dem hordes do and we mock them for their lack of brainpower and tendency to follow the other lemmings over the cliff....

Kind of ironic really...

I wonder if it's a coincidence that many who jump on every "Oh noze!" bandwagon also don't appear to donate to FR - which means they don't invest anything but words in the battle against evil. Can you help me understand?

71 posted on 08/17/2020 3:15:18 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

and I believe that’s EXACTLY what’s been happening with covid. The entire thing is rife with manipulated and wrong information all to force us into vaccines. You probably don’t think that but that is exactly where this is going and it’s the work of the devil.


72 posted on 08/17/2020 6:23:59 AM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

“There is no editing your genes or your chromosomes. There is no damage to your body.”

You are making this up.

There IS crossover, there is recombination.
There is a history of DNA picking up genes from RNA.

You are making this up.


73 posted on 08/17/2020 6:30:51 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("when a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced")
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To: Diogenesis

The mRNA never enters the nucleus. It lacks a transport method to do so. It only interacts with ribosomes and only encodes a surface glycoprotein which is harmless to humans.

By what mechanism would any of this harm a person? Identify exactly HOW what you claim would even be possible.

What I think is happening is that there’s a lack of understanding about how these systems interact with one another, and from that lack of understanding there’s a fear about what might happen.


74 posted on 08/17/2020 7:12:37 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

never??
it only works activated, with polyA on it,
and THAT is what sends it back to the nucleus.

which drug company or clown company do get paid by?


75 posted on 08/17/2020 7:39:15 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("when a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced")
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To: Diogenesis

by the way, welcome to FR.


76 posted on 08/17/2020 7:41:21 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("when a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced")
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To: Libloather

Hard pass at our house.


77 posted on 08/17/2020 7:42:36 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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