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The Air Force May Ditch GPS for Earth's Magnetic Field... We're long overdue for a new way to navigate.
www.popularmechanics.com ^ | By Kyle Mizokami Aug 4, 2020

Posted on 08/07/2020 7:46:40 AM PDT by Red Badger

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To: Red Badger

Eh? What’s wrong with celestial navigation?

Stars are visible even in broad daylight. Maybe not to the human eye, but they are detectable with modern (as of late 1970s technology) sensors.


61 posted on 08/07/2020 10:00:01 AM PDT by null and void (Quarantine the sick. Shield the vulnerable. Free everyone else!)
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To: Red Badger

Hell, give everyone a map.

Hey, I had to use one.

Incoming!

5.56mm


62 posted on 08/07/2020 10:03:46 AM PDT by M Kehoe (DRAIN THE SWAMP! Finish THE WALL!)
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To: Red Badger

Currently, as I understand it, the technology exists where missiles can use a topographical course, based on stored topo maps. So, this magnetic field thing, accurate to 30 feet may be some disinformation. I could see where it might be a good backup, in the event the Chinese spoof our gps signals, which is how China/Iran got one of our drones to land at their airport.

If anything, it will keep the Chinese guessing, and they aren’t now going to spend a fortune to jam/spoof gps.


63 posted on 08/07/2020 10:09:47 AM PDT by krogers58
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To: Red Badger

“The Air Force, wary of losing its GPS satellites during a major war”

No crap. Only took them 30 years to realize that China, Russia, and probably other countries would knock our GPS in 5 minutes, if a war started.

One would hope they would have considered alternatives already.


64 posted on 08/07/2020 10:14:41 AM PDT by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here)
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To: ASA Vet
Hey! I bet you've heard worse. 😇
65 posted on 08/07/2020 10:24:51 AM PDT by Tucker39 ("It is impossible to rightly govern a nation without God and the Bible." George Washington)
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To: ASA Vet

From a fellow ASA Vet. 056, Chitose and Kami Seya, Japan 1958 - 1961. 3 years of great experiences.


66 posted on 08/07/2020 10:27:24 AM PDT by Tucker39 ("It is impossible to rightly govern a nation without God and the Bible." George Washington)
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To: Red Badger

This thread is fascinating. Thanks for posting...


67 posted on 08/07/2020 10:29:07 AM PDT by poconopundit (Iron fist in an Irish velvet glove: Kayleigh the Shillelagh we salute your work!)
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68 posted on 08/07/2020 10:31:11 AM PDT by Red Badger (To a liberal, 9-11 was 'illegal fireworks activity'...........................)
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To: Red Badger

What are there guys smoking? 30 feet? DGPS is sub one foot right now, commercially! Add to the fact that the North Pole is heading to Siberia at a rate not seen in a long time. Ugh!


69 posted on 08/07/2020 10:36:10 AM PDT by Shark24
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To: Red Badger

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70 posted on 08/07/2020 10:37:58 AM PDT by Covenantor (We are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by foo, thatls who cannot govern. " Chesterton)
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To: poconopundit

I enjoyed the thread.

My son is an aerospace engineer. He works on a satellite mission as a flight operations engineer for an array of several satellites that study the earth’s magnetic fields.

I have no idea the science behind them but wonder if some of their data might be influencing this. No clue.

He doesn’t know much either. He’s on the operations side not the physics end of it.


71 posted on 08/07/2020 10:39:08 AM PDT by cyclotic (The most dangerous people are the ones that feel the most helpless)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Put a Canada Goose in the nose of the B2 and guide off that? I doubt Trudeau would approve!


72 posted on 08/07/2020 10:44:07 AM PDT by Tallguy (Facts be d@mned! The narrative must be protected at all costs!)
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To: Red Badger

I’m skeptical, if only because the recent and continuing movement of the north magnetic pole across the arctic towards Siberia from its previous slow-moving stroll away from Greenland. A “north pole” reference point moving two hundred kilometers per year makes aiming aircraft and bombs and rockets and long range gunnery that need to hit within 5 meters very difficult.


73 posted on 08/07/2020 12:16:17 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE ( I can only donate monthly, but the radical ABCNNBCBS does it every hour on their news.)
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To: Yo-Yo; Kaslin; Ernest_at_the_Beach

Yes, the north magnetic is crossing the line between the geographic north pole and the international date line this summer. Weakening also. The south magnetic pole? Little change!


74 posted on 08/07/2020 12:19:39 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE ( I can only donate monthly, but the radical ABCNNBCBS does it every hour on their news.)
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To: Tucker39

I’m glad I did not hear that punishment.


75 posted on 08/07/2020 12:23:49 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE ( I can only donate monthly, but the radical ABCNNBCBS does it every hour on their news.)
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To: Red Badger

The GPS grid doesn’t belong to the Air Force but to the Americans taxpayers.


76 posted on 08/07/2020 12:30:31 PM PDT by dljordan
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To: ASA Vet

“I have seen my compass do that in some places in the dead stream swamp of Missaukee County, MI.”

I was using ADF to get back to my homeport in Middle Tennessee, then I flew over some TVA transmission lines. The ADF went bonkers for several minutes.


77 posted on 08/07/2020 12:35:39 PM PDT by dljordan
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To: Bull Snipe
They put sextants back aboard our Navy’s ships here a few years back. Also reintroduced celestial navigation the Naval Academy, I think.

That's a good backup move...

78 posted on 08/07/2020 1:03:18 PM PDT by GOPJ (Leo Terrell - Michael Shellenberger - Mike Adams - Bari Weiss .- Bernell Trammell - John Kass)
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To: Tucker39
I did 3+ in Bangkok in a RR unit.
I told people that the RR stood for Rail Road and that we helped with the Siamese Rail Road.

My Specialty was Laying Thais.

I have Nephew who did 3 years at FS Misawa in Japan. 3 full years and that silly kid never left the base.

79 posted on 08/07/2020 2:37:40 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Make American Intelligence Great Again. Bring back ASA.)
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To: ASA Vet

My 2 years at Kami Seya Navy Base, I bought a ‘52 Studebaker from a Navy First Class who had re-upped and had a new car waiting at his next duty station. That car was ugly as homemade soap, but I had a ball with it.


80 posted on 08/07/2020 4:59:58 PM PDT by Tucker39 ("It is impossible to rightly govern a nation without God and the Bible." George Washington)
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