The Way Out: Arabistan

New English Review ^ | 1/8/20 | Dovid Primack (Eleutheria5)

[Eleutheria5]

.....

In 1908, Khaz’al ibn Haji Jabir Khan, Sheikh of the Kasebite klan of the Banu Ka’b tribe of Arabs, became a wealthy man....

.....

The last Pahlavi dynasty was run out of town in 1978 by Ayatollah Khomeini, and the Islamic Republic took possession of the oil fields of Khuzestan, still cutting the indigenous Arabs out of any share in the profits, but letting them live among the pollution and debris.

So much for the historical background. How to describe the present? A nightmare. The Kasebite/K’aba Arabs still receive none of the income from these oil wells, but must eke out a sparse living from their polluted ancestral land. They have been re-named Ahwazis, after their largest city, and public speaking, broadcasting and publishing in Arabic is forbidden. Even cultural events such as poetry readings, which are highly valued by Arabs, are forbidden. Even giving their children Arab names is forbidden, unless it is also the name of an Iranian historical figure. Arabistan is now called Khuzestan. Iran is deleting all Arabian links to the region, and colonizing it with Persians as they drive the Arabs out.

The majority of Ahwazis are Shiite Muslims. But living in deep poverty with their culture suppressed and their mineral wealth confiscated, many have secretly converted to Sunni Islam as an expression of extreme alienation. And those that have done so have been frequently arrested and charged with trumped up crimes. .... A new, sadistic form of execution has been devised just for uppity Ahwazis, slow strangulation.[1]



.....

[Eleutheria5]

Seed of this article was planted right here on Free Republic, and with a little prodding and guidance by friends, here it is in Dalrymple's highly respected periodical, from which I hope it will reach POTUSDJT, SOS Pompeiio, and others. Thank you to whatever no-longer-remembered FRiend got my gears moving towards what turned out to be the above-excerpted article.

[PeteB570]

Tribal divides, religious divides, cultural divides, parties on both sides of an international border....and all in the middle east/Persia - and oil is involved.

Just say “no” to involvement.

[Eleutheria5]

Absolutely. Recognize Arabistan. Send them military aid and Green Berets for training. And de-fang Iran permanently. They have been using 95 years of pilfered oil wealth to terrorize the world while oppressing the rightful owners. No to direct involvement. Yes to recognition and aid.

[PeteB570]

Absolutely NOT!

No more involvement in Arab/Persian countries.

My “care meter” is on zero.

[Eleutheria5]

Your ostrich meter is at 100. Persia is right now threatening to bite/biting the US and Israel in their freedom-loving asses. Do you believe BLM just gets its money from Soros? Where does he get his money, if not through playing globo-politics with OPEC and other major movers and shakers. The US can no more eschew geopolitics now than it could in 1812 or 1941, because it is too important a player itself. You either push the world gently and occasionally on your terms, or it pushes you hard on its, and then all you can do is react.

Iran hasn’t eschewed terror or oil blackmail, and a free and independent Arabistan would be check and mate to both at once, so that the US CAN avoid WW IV or whichever world war is either brewing or ongoing right now, and at the same time serve justice in a big way.

[fatez]

I started it and I will come back and read it. Thank you very much, I had not seen this site before and I am looking forward to exploring it. If you want feedback on your article, I would be more than happy to provide it.

[Eleutheria5]

Thank you.

[PeteB570]

Well, get your country to go do it.

[Eleutheria5]

Israel recognizes Arabistan. America demurs. Arabistan renamed Khuzestan again after population wiped out. Israel shuts up. So does America. Iran goes on terror rampage. Oil prices drop.

Bottom line: America is the one with the clout. Diplomatic recognition would mean something coming from America, along with supplies and covert training. If you have clout and don’t use it, you’re screwed. Ask Neville Chamberlain what he would have done differently.

Israel, while able to do some limited things to help the Ahwazi right now, and probably doing that, would be in over its diplomatic head without American vocal support.

[qaz123]

Are you going to go over there and teach them small unit tactics, basic rifle marksmanship, counter insurgency tactics?

Want to give them a few bucks to buy some AKs? OK. Want to hire some merc’s to train them? OK. No Americans.

[Cronos]

The threat is from the Sunni Wahhabis. Saudi, Qatar, Islamic state

[Cronos]

The Arabs are no more indigenous than the other people in Khuzestan. That land was originally Elamite, before becoming successively Persian, Arab, Iranian etc. - the people have shifted cultures over the millenia.

[Eleutheria5]

Enh. After a few centuries, they may as well be indigenous and Arabs. Jews are indigenous to Israel, but at the same time we were pretty thin on the ground for a couple of millennia. Kurds are indigenous. Persians are indigenous, too, but not in Khuzestan, which is mostly Arab despite all that the Persians have done to make it not so. Scots-Irish are indigenous to the Carolinas. Boers are indigenous to South Africa. So are the Zulu.

[Eleutheria5]

Don’t know any small unit tactics, and can’t hit the broad side of a barn. IDF is well-qualified to do so, but unaccompanied by some American special forces, their life would not be worth a plug nickle in Khuzestan. They’d be arrested and hung as spies.

Most likely, the best way to go at it would be to train and supply the military-age Ahwazi exiles in Kuwait, but the Kuwaitis would be more inclined to tolerate American Special Forces, with Israelis in tow as a support contingent, though the Israelis could do most of the work. Diplomatic recognition would have to be the very last step to a mostly covert operation taking place over several years. None of this would happen on TV.

[Caipirabob]

Not one more American life should be spent on these people.

Offer training, rehabilitation, lessons on economics and a review of the US Constitution.

They are big boys now, they can handle it.

[Cronos]

Persians are indigenous to Khuzestan as well. They first migrated there in 700 BC and merged with the indigenous Elamites.

Some later merged with the conquering Arabs during the Arab conquests.

The various peoples of Khuzestan are all more or less the same “indigenous” level in that area

[Eleutheria5]

SOME Persians are indigenous to Khuzestan. Others are there as a result of aggressive colonization for the express purpose of suppressing the nascent nationalism of the Ahwazi. I’ve said that the Scotts-Irish are indigenous to the Carolinas, but I misspoke. That doesn’t mean that any Tom, Dick and Harry from Belfast can just show up in Raleigh and demand 40 acres and a mule. That is basically what the Persian overlords are doing with Khuzestan and its Persian minority, forcibly and artificially increase it. The majority are either Ahwazis or Lors, and the federal government is doing its damnedest to change that fact, and it’s all over oil and who gets the benefits.

I no longer live in America, but having grown up there I’m a firm believer in the social contract. The Iranian central government is in breach of it vis a vis the Ahwazi, and they are doing it in order to use oil revenues to menace the West and its allies in the Middle East. I can understand American reluctance to continue playing globocop, especially in the bizzarro world of the Levant. But here we are. Ignore the menace of Iran, and they will become more menacing, and especially to the Great Satan. Invade and occupy it, and you’re grappling with Tar Baby again.

So a balanced approach must be evolved, and what could make more sense than to facilitate the liberation of an oppressed people, first with covert aid to insurgents; training, equipment. Then, when all is ready, recognize the emerging state. Israel is in a position to unofficially do a lot of heavy lifting, but to do so without the cover of America and its clout would doom the venture from the outset.

[Eleutheria5]

Absolutely agree. America and Teddy’s Big Stick keeps getting stuck in crap holes. So redefine the role.

[Cronos]

"SOME Persians are indigenous to Khuzestan. Others are there as a result of aggressive colonization for the express purpose of suppressing the nascent nationalism of the Ahwazi."

What are you talking about?

The Persians were there before the Arab invasions of the 7th century.

[Cronos]

the social contract -- there is no social contract for the Islamic republic. The Khuzestanis are Iranian, just like Mazandanis, Baluchis, Persians, etc.