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It's Too Late To Stop China's Military Catch-Up With America
https://nationalinterest.org ^ | August 1, 2020 | by Robert Farley

Posted on 08/01/2020 10:57:46 AM PDT by RomanSoldier19

Edited on 08/01/2020 3:39:56 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

Here's What You Need To Remember: The United States has become increasingly aggressive about slowing down or halting China’s industrial espionage efforts. This has included indictments of PLA officers, broad condemnations of Chinese spying, and targeted reprisals against some Chinese firms. But given the extensive commercial contacts between China and the United States, stopping the flow of technology is virtually impossible.

As the People’s Republic of China (PRC) emerged from war and revolution in 1949, it became apparent that the Chinese economy lacked the capacity to compete with the U.S. or the U.S.S.R. in the production of advanced military technology. Transfers from the Soviet Union helped remedy the gap in the 1950s, as did transfers from the United States and Europe in the 1970s and 1980s. Still, the Cultural Revolution stifled technology and scientific research, leaving the Chinese even farther behind.

Thus, China has long supplemented legitimate transfers and domestic innovation with industrial espionage. In short, the PRC has a well-established habit of pilfering weapons technology from Russia and the United States. As the years have gone by, Beijing’s spies have become ever more skillful and flexible in their approach. Here are five systems that the Chinese have stolen or copied, in whole or in part:


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To: trebb

Also worth noting: https://tinyurl.com/y6bbfn77


61 posted on 08/02/2020 3:01:56 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

If you believe Congress is privy to every bit of research and development my the Pentagon you would be wildly wrong.

The Congress appropriates fund for the military and after the funds are allocated the Congress has little say as to exactly how they are spent.

The Pentagon does NOT report to the Congress when they enter into R&D for a new weapons system. The Congress is told only on a “need to know” basis. If you know Congress critters, you know why it is done this way.


62 posted on 08/02/2020 4:12:20 AM PDT by billyboy15
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To: dennisw
CVN USS Gerald R. Ford.

The Navy has already declared the Ford non-operational for the foreseeable future and is designated as a training ship. They hope to work the bugs out to make the other ordered 3 in the class operational.

PS: so do the Chinese, who stole the plans and are building 4 like it, but are waiting for the US to fix them so they can steal the fixes. The Ford is one more demonstration the poster child for the Navy brass' stupidity and hubris

63 posted on 08/02/2020 4:25:47 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: PIF

Many thanks for elucidating. I am going to keep track of the USS Gerald R. Ford. I was unaware of the disgraceful situation it is in. 17 billion to build an aircarft carrier that is not 100% operational.


64 posted on 08/02/2020 7:07:21 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: dennisw

many articles on this site but has no search feature so you just have to scroll
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone


65 posted on 08/02/2020 7:11:09 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: PIF

I will take a look. Thanks!


66 posted on 08/02/2020 7:12:16 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: BobL

Interesting observation - thank you.


67 posted on 08/02/2020 11:48:50 AM PDT by jttpwalsh
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To: cba123

Thanks for your reply.


68 posted on 08/02/2020 11:49:22 AM PDT by jttpwalsh
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To: billyboy15

Congress does have the final say on what gets bought after the R&D is completed - and they’ve been steering that the wrong way for most of the past two decades. Again - if you were correct, where are our flotillas of current frigates? Where’s the thousands of F-22s? Where’s the ammo for the DD-1000’s main gun?


69 posted on 08/02/2020 12:43:19 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

We have the strongest military by a pretty long way and I never saw or read where we were supposed to have “thousands of F22” And btw they are an almost equal footing as the F35.

Anyway, you can but I’m not loosing sleep over what you perceive to be our military weaknesses.

I’ll pretty much accept this:

https://www.globalfirepower.com/country-military-strength-detail.asp?country_id=united-states-of-america


70 posted on 08/02/2020 12:59:13 PM PDT by billyboy15
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To: billyboy15

The F-22 was originally supposed to have at least 750 of the first revision plus sales to a few trusted allies. The follow-on version was to have at least as many, and the plan was that F-22 variants should replace all of our F-15s. We ended up with 187, of which several have been destroyed without replacements and many of which are unserviceable.

The F-35 is nowhere near as capable in air to air or even ground support as the F-22. Its integral cannon has only 200 rounds - one or two bursts. Maybe three.


71 posted on 08/02/2020 1:15:16 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

The F-35 is nowhere near as capable in air to air or even ground support as the F-22. Its integral cannon has only 200 rounds - one or two bursts. Maybe three.
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Not what I read but then I don’t fly the thing and truthfully neither you or I know the exact capabilities of the ones we fly which would be different from what we sell to our allies.


72 posted on 08/02/2020 1:58:52 PM PDT by billyboy15
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To: billyboy15

The 181 round limit on the A model has been confirmed by pilots, the contractor and Congress. There just isn’t room for more ammo, and they’re resorting back to non-stealth gun pods for the ground attack role on the A. The B and C models don’t have an internal gun at all and are relegated to pods carrying 220 rounds.

https://theaviationist.com/2017/05/18/watch-this-f-35b-fires-gau-22-external-gun-pod-in-flight-for-first-time/


73 posted on 08/02/2020 2:20:22 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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