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California's Ban on 'In-Home Bible Studies' Sparks Lawsuit by Church
Christian headlines ^ | Michael Foust

Posted on 07/22/2020 7:16:24 PM PDT by paladinkc

California's Ban on 'In-Home Bible Studies' Sparks Lawsuit by Church. At issue are prohibitions by Gov. Gavin Newsom and state officials on “in-person religious gatherings” in 30 counties, as well as bans on corporate singing statewide.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: California
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To: paladinkc

I wonder when Trump will put an end to thr tryanny running throughout the country.

Probably never.

Maybe he supports it.


41 posted on 07/22/2020 10:17:27 PM PDT by moviefan8
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To: Songcraft
"Fox" a crafty animal.

Luke 13:31-32:

The same day there came certain of the Pharisees, saying unto him, Get thee out, and depart hence: for Herod will kill thee.

And he said unto them, Go ye, and tell that fox, Behold, I cast out devils, and I do cures to day and tomorrow, and the third day I shall be perfected.

42 posted on 07/22/2020 10:24:10 PM PDT by 444Flyer (John 3, Revelation 20, Joshua 24:15, 1 Kings 18:16-39, Pick a side...)
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To: lgjhn23
"This virus BS was just a communist test run to see how far they could push it, and they’ve succeeded beyond their wildest dreams."

"Evangelicals, especially the women, who think Trump is just too mean, nasty, etc. etc. to be POTUS need to dig their collective righteous heads out of their holy azzes and THINK about that for awhile before going into the voting booth."

Quote of the Day Vote

43 posted on 07/22/2020 10:25:10 PM PDT by Ymani Cricket
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To: ChildOfThe60s

But the Baghavad Gita and the Koran are ok.


44 posted on 07/23/2020 12:42:03 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 ("SHUT UP!" he explained.)
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To: Spirochete

Damn! Now I find out! But—hey! I get all the Disney movies. Hi hey! Hi hey! It’s home from work I stay!


45 posted on 07/23/2020 12:44:22 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 ("SHUT UP!" he explained.)
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To: Track9

No, I agree. Most churches have just laid down. They’d do anything the government told them, including disband.


46 posted on 07/23/2020 5:22:40 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Politics is the continuation of war by other means. --Clausewitz)
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To: Drago

Shouldn’t your objection be directed at those bringing the lawsuit since they claim the effect of the order is to ban home bible studies?


47 posted on 07/23/2020 6:34:23 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Drago
The clickbait headline writers need to take a break on this issue...”in person religious gatherings” are not mentioned in the official order.

You probably should actually read the article before commenting and making an a$$ out of yourself next time. This is the sixth paragraph from the top. It ties in with the headline and is not "clickbait".

The lawsuit is unique in that it also targets the state’s implicit prohibition on Bible studies. Harvest Church has “numerous Life Groups, which meet in the homes of members,” the suit says. Likewise, “many of Harvest International’s member churches in California also have smaller groups that meet in the homes of their members to worship together” and “engage in Bible study,” it says.

48 posted on 07/23/2020 10:53:08 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: paladinkc

Guess they need to go to the catacombs.


49 posted on 07/23/2020 10:55:02 AM PDT by mware (RETIRED)
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To: paladinkc

They can just call it a George Floyd memorial service or a BLM service.


50 posted on 07/23/2020 12:42:42 PM PDT by a real Sheila (Love my golden retrievers!)
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To: fireman15

I read the website article, you need to read the CA heath dept. order....nothing in it prohibits gatherings at homes...including BBQ’s, pool parties, and bible studies. Social distancing and/or masks required. The phrase “in person religious gatherings” specifically mentioned in the website article is not mentioned in any CA Health Dept. order.

https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID/DCDC/CDPH%20Document%20Library/COVID-19/SHO%20Order%20Dimming%20Entire%20State%207-13-2020.pdf

https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID/DCDC/CDPH%20Document%20Library/COVID-19/Guidance-for-Face-Coverings_06-18-2020.pdf

https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID/DCDC/Pages/Immunization/ncov2019.aspx

Or in lieu of a lawsuit just test the dictatorial edicts:

https://abc30.com/cornerstone-church-pastor-jim-franklin-california-covid-closures-fresno-churches-closed-in/6318286/

Harvest Church in SoCal has the right to sue Grusome Newsome/CDPH, but could have saved some lawyer $$ and just held their home bible studies with social distancing/masks. They decided to go the lawyer/clarification route instead, and I hope they win.


51 posted on 07/23/2020 1:44:12 PM PDT by Drago
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To: paladinkc

I thought this could be the Calif “Harvest” church started by Chuck whats-his-name in the 60s-70s, but this one is run by some Asian guy.


52 posted on 07/23/2020 6:21:07 PM PDT by LouieFisk
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To: Drago

Thanks for posting this.

Some amazing stats like 0 deaths in the 1-17 age group ytd.

80+ years old, mixed race like yours truly has a very low death rate.

https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID/DCDC/Pages/COVID-19/Race-Ethnicity.aspx

Hispanics continue to lead in # of Cases, hospitalized and deaths.


53 posted on 07/25/2020 1:52:53 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (If CV19 is so easily spread, why do they shove a Qtip up your nose and into your brain for a sample?)
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To: Drago

Please ping me when you post the California real data like these links in the future.

Thanks
Dave


54 posted on 07/25/2020 1:55:28 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (If CV19 is so easily spread, why do they shove a Qtip up your nose and into your brain for a sample?)
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To: Grampa Dave

OK, NP. Yeah California’s “per capita” fatality rate is “211 per million population” and N.Y./New Jersey are around 1700 each. CA way down the “per capita” list of states...like #28.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

So far COVID in CA is running about 1/2 as serious as the 1968-’69 flu pandemic based on “per capita fatalities”, but has 5 1/2 months more to run for a “season total”. I don’t recall any lockdowns in 1969, but I was only 10 y/o and in a rural CA area.


55 posted on 07/25/2020 2:23:12 PM PDT by Drago
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To: Drago

“1968-’69 flu pandemic”

We moved out here to California during that time period and there were zero restrictions nor lockdowns.

I just asked my wife.

She did have to show the various shots a vaccines records the kids had taken in N.J. so they could start school in the fall semester. She carried those records until they went to college.


56 posted on 07/25/2020 2:42:19 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (If CV19 is so easily spread, why do they shove a Qtip up your nose and into your brain for a sample?)
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To: Magnum44

Who woulda ever thought the Big Brother, West Coast-style, would wind up looking like a fruity Metrosexual?


57 posted on 07/25/2020 4:45:12 PM PDT by supremedoctrine ( at this point)
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To: Beowulf9

please, Beowulf9 what is that great painting?


58 posted on 07/25/2020 4:47:33 PM PDT by supremedoctrine ( at this point)
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To: supremedoctrine

Isn’t that something?! It’s Jean-Léon Jérôme The Christian Martyrs’ Last Prayer, oil on canvas (1863-883). Hanging at the Walters Art Museum, Baltimore, Maryland.

post 21 gives more info on it if you want to see that one :)


59 posted on 07/25/2020 7:57:46 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: paladinkc

A lot of churches are, in this Covid time, Very strongly emphasizing growing their small group meetings. It’s what the church did in its first 2 centuries, the period which it had its fastest rate of multiplication. The Church started meeting in church buildings around the year 300, and the growth slowed considerably.


60 posted on 07/26/2020 11:04:05 AM PDT by cookcounty (Susan Rice: G Gordon Liddy times 10.)
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