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Gunman disguised as delivery driver kills son, shoots husband of NJ federal judge
NY Post ^ | July 20, 2020 | Natalie O'Neil & Tamar Lapin

Posted on 07/20/2020 6:35:00 AM PDT by libstripper

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To: libstripper

Joe Giaduce hit from Sicily?


41 posted on 07/20/2020 7:33:53 AM PDT by montag813 (Nonsenze)
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To: libstripper

I find the Epstein very tenuous. It would not be the first or even the 5th lead I would follow.


42 posted on 07/20/2020 7:44:58 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: libstripper; All

Here’s the NYT article, via MSN, on the same topic. Nothing new.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/gunman-shoots-husband-and-son-of-federal-judge-in-new-jersey/ar-BB16Wz23?ocid=msnews


43 posted on 07/20/2020 7:48:02 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: allendale

Criminal defendants are the most likely source of plots against a judge and the judge’s family, with domestic cases a secondary source. At least that was my experience when I was in my teens and my father was a circuit judge and he and my family were warned by law enforcement that we were considered specific targets. And honest judges are the most likely targets for murder and family kidnappings or blackmail efforts because, if a judge is dishonest, it is easier and cheaper to just intimidate or buy them off.


44 posted on 07/20/2020 7:53:23 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: PLMerite

The 2016 Democrat nominee. That looked like the most apt description of her.


45 posted on 07/20/2020 7:58:00 AM PDT by BobL
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To: Travis McGee

Thanks for the tips. I’ll look into that today.

L


46 posted on 07/20/2020 8:01:15 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: gundog
She goes by many names...Cankles, Her Thighness....

Her Heinous...

47 posted on 07/20/2020 8:05:50 AM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: MattMusson

“Has a Federal Judge been assassinated since actor Woody Harrelson’s dad killed that one in San Antonio?”

Scalia.


48 posted on 07/20/2020 8:13:24 AM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (Political Science degrees, so easy Obama has one.)
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To: Travis McGee

Good advice.


49 posted on 07/20/2020 8:16:03 AM PDT by Jane Austen (Neo-cons are liberal Democrats who love illegal aliens and war.)
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To: Travis McGee

Good advice.


50 posted on 07/20/2020 8:16:03 AM PDT by Jane Austen (Neo-cons are liberal Democrats who love illegal aliens and war.)
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To: MattMusson

Per this link, only four have been murdered.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_federal_judges_killed_in_office

John H. Wood Jr. - Contract Killing by Wooody Harrelson’s dad, ordered by a Drug Dealer who hated the judge for his sentences,

Richard J. Daronco - Murdered by the father of a woman who lost a harrassment case in his court.

Robert Smith Vance - Killed by mail bomb from another unhappy plaintiff

John Roll - Stopped by Gabby Giffords shopping center meet and greet to discuss court case loads and got shot as part of that shooting


51 posted on 07/20/2020 8:18:52 AM PDT by GreenLanternCorps (Hi! I'm the Dread Pirate Roberts! (TM) Atsk about franchise opportunities in your area.)
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To: allendale

This was a planned hit.

People who put this much planning into a killing, make sure they hit the target. Thus, the son was the target.

If the father had been the target, the shooter would have waited (and continued to play the role of a FedEx delivery guy) until the father was in a can’t miss position.

The only other logical explanation is that ANY family member was the target, so they shot they first one available. That would mean it was an attempt to intimidate the judge.


52 posted on 07/20/2020 8:34:33 AM PDT by Brookhaven (Only communists call fascists right wing, because only communists are to the left of fascists.)
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To: Brookhaven

You got it.


53 posted on 07/20/2020 8:36:38 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer”)
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To: 3RIVRS
Dig in to the son. Dad was collateral. They will try to pin this on right wingers but it’s most likely drug related. Someone went to a lot of trouble to plan this including a disguise. This was personal.

No, but it was very professional.

54 posted on 07/20/2020 8:37:42 AM PDT by cpdiii (cane cutter, deckhand, roughhneck, geologist, pilot, pharmacist, old man, CONSTITUTION TO DIE FOR)
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To: Flavious_Maximus
The gunman did not finish the job.
Why didn’t he/her go into the house and kill them all?

Good question, but the shooter may indeed have finished the job.

We aren't told whether there was entry or, if so, for how long the shooter may have been searching in the house.

If either of the parents were the target, a pro might well have told the son he needed the signature of a parent. If there is no entry, then it would appear either a significant "warning" to either Mr. or Mrs. that did not harm them but keeps them in play, or the actual target, the son, was hit.

Knowing the location of the son's body and where Mr. was wounded will be helpful. Whatever vehicle was used may provide valuable information via cameras in the general locale.

55 posted on 07/20/2020 8:46:05 AM PDT by frog in a pot (From Day1, 24/7 MSM-talking heads said, "Floyd was murdered by the police." Where is the evidence?)
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To: frog in a pot

As I read the article. Mr opened the door and was shot and sidestepped. The son then made an appearance and was killed.

We are not actually aware of where the son was at the time of his father’s being shot. We also do not know why the killer did not hunt the mother/judge and kill her if she was the target.

Since she is alive and unharmed, I would think the job may have been botched and the fee is thus not collectable. Or, the son was the target all along and the service was rendered and the fee can be collected.

Question? Would you hire an amatuer hitman to kill a federal judge?


56 posted on 07/20/2020 8:51:53 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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To: Brookhaven

Yes, this was my first thought...that the judge was being intimidated...


57 posted on 07/20/2020 8:59:36 AM PDT by MCEscherHammer
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To: bert
Mr opened the door and was shot and sidestepped. The son then made an appearance and was killed.

Wouldn't be a surprise if there are different public reports on this.

From the article:
"Sources told ABC News that the judge’s son, a student at Catholic University in Washington, DC, answered the door and was immediately struck."

58 posted on 07/20/2020 9:08:15 AM PDT by frog in a pot (From Day1, 24/7 MSM-talking heads said, "Floyd was murdered by the police." Where is the evidence?)
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To: Travis McGee
The innocent-looking female with the clipboard prop might have 3 male attackers lurking around the corner waiting for you to crack open your door.

Good point for homeowner's to consider.

In fact, a carefully carried clipboard alone can conceal a small handgun. There was a time in CA that CHP, perhaps in violation of policy and almost certainly depending on the neighborhood, would approach vehicles with clipboards at the ready.

59 posted on 07/20/2020 9:15:22 AM PDT by frog in a pot (From Day1, 24/7 MSM-talking heads said, "Floyd was murdered by the police." Where is the evidence?)
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To: cuban leaf

Suicide Hotline how can I help you
Hillary Clinton: I would like to place an order

This was a HIT..perhaps the son opened the door, otherwise the judge would be the one 6 feet under right now


60 posted on 07/20/2020 10:17:29 AM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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