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UCSF scientists: coronavirus immunity only temporary?
SF Chronicle via Benecia Independent ^ | July 17th, 2020 | by Peter Fimrite

Posted on 07/17/2020 1:35:46 PM PDT by Mariner

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To: MinorityRepublican

“It will just become an annual COVID-19 shot just like you get your flu shot every year.”

Certain.

And they will try to target the particular variation annually.


61 posted on 07/17/2020 2:59:04 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Amendment10

“But I’ve never heard of permanent immunity to anything. “

Polio.

And a few others.


62 posted on 07/17/2020 3:03:41 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: entropy12

“Can the same thing be said about covid-19?
If it continues to mutate, what good is any vaccine?”

The flu are pre-existing or new viruses that may have come via birds etc...

They’ve had a long time to mutate to immunologically distinct viruses. They’re in the population already all the time. Different years, different ones will become more pronounced. It’s random. The flu shot is educated guess on which ones will be causing the flu that season and the shot will be for those most likely flu viruses.

SARS-CoV-2 just moved to human hasn’t yet had time to mutate much.

If the antigenic region a vaccine was targeted to were incredibly narrow, perhaps mutations in the time frame if this virus could cause the vaccine to not recognize the virus with new mutations, but a vaccine will be broader.


63 posted on 07/17/2020 3:07:35 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Mariner

The antibodies they test and measure are NOT the only immune defenses we have. There are many other ways wemfight this virus. Especially youngsters.

Many people fight it off with no antibodies showing up. Seems many people are naturally Immune. They actually just have other defenses that work well.

Read thoroughly:

https://medium.com/@vernunftundrichtigkeit/coronavirus-why-everyone-was-wrong-fce6db5ba809


64 posted on 07/17/2020 3:10:54 PM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables (This is all a communist plan!)
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To: Mariner

Freepers hate this topic, will call you a fear monger.


65 posted on 07/17/2020 3:11:03 PM PDT by BusterDog
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To: Mariner

MSM BS detected.

- Using a question mark at the end of a headline.
- Using qualifiers like might, may, could.


66 posted on 07/17/2020 3:13:52 PM PDT by Flick Lives (My work's illegal, but at least it's honest. - Capt. Malcolm Reynolds)
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To: dinodino

It seems there had been tests on just animals only before SARS died out on it’s own:
“Vaccine studies for SARS-CoV-1 were started and tested in animal models. An inactivated whole virus was used in ferrets, nonhuman primates and mice. All of the vaccines resulted in protective immunity, but there were complications; the vaccines resulted in an immune disease in animals. No human studies were done, nor were the vaccine studies taken further because the virus disappeared. Many factors were involved in the end of SARS-CoV-1, perhaps including summer weather, and certainly strict quarantine of all those who had contact with infected individuals, but we don’t really know why the epidemic ended”
https://theconversation.com/the-mysterious-disappearance-of-the-first-sars-virus-and-why-we-need-a-vaccine-for-the-current-one-but-didnt-for-the-other-137583


67 posted on 07/17/2020 3:17:29 PM PDT by LouieFisk
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To: LouieFisk

This is a SARS virus, SARS 2, Covid is the illness it causes. CO Viral Infectious Disease.


68 posted on 07/17/2020 3:19:57 PM PDT by Neverlift (When someone says "you just can't make this stuff up" odds are good, somebody did.)
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To: Neverlift

Yeah, I dunno what, if anything, can be learned/borrowed from it specifically to apply toward anything else.


69 posted on 07/17/2020 3:21:52 PM PDT by LouieFisk
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To: Mariner
"indicate"
"may"
"molecular biologists fear"
"a good chance"


70 posted on 07/17/2020 3:35:20 PM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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To: Mariner

They’re spewing out that cases are now counted by the ONSET of SYMPTOMS. Furthermore, deaths are recorded when Covid is a CONTRIBUTING factor.


71 posted on 07/17/2020 3:43:34 PM PDT by Varsity Flight (QE 2020. All Quiet on the Western Front)
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To: Wonder Warthog

Except that number is probably inflated by 33 - 40%


72 posted on 07/17/2020 4:25:08 PM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: Wonder Warthog

Not by a significant margin


73 posted on 07/17/2020 4:26:11 PM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: Wonder Warthog

If the grubermint quit paying for it the Wuhan scam would be over in a day.


74 posted on 07/17/2020 4:30:56 PM PDT by SanchoP (We're passed the biological softening up and beginning the open warfare strategy. WAKE UP!!)
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To: ncalburt
"The death count is mangled . The deaths count includes people who had other illness like Strokes ,motorcycle accidents but were positive . The CDC has destroyed all the counts .

There are other statistics than the CDC. The "mangling" has no effect on the trends, which went from decreasing to increasing. Statistics ultimately derive from the county level, which the CDC has no control over. I'm sure there are a few instances of the sort you describe, but not enough to matter.

75 posted on 07/17/2020 4:56:37 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (No Longer Tolerating Trolls!)
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To: SmokingJoe
"Article’s data is right on the money. Its a very long article encompassing many countries. I took the time to read it all last night. They are exactly right. You may want to actually read it before spewing. You obviously haven’t read it."

All I need to read are the dates on the axes. DoughtyOne's statistics are better. Try comparing the two before "spewing".

76 posted on 07/17/2020 4:58:04 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (No Longer Tolerating Trolls!)
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To: gas_dr
"Not by a significant margin"

I consider the margin "significant". What matters is the change in direction of trends....from decreasing to increasing.

77 posted on 07/17/2020 5:07:10 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (No Longer Tolerating Trolls!)
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To: Wonder Warthog
You know the contents of a big book on advanced physics because you read the cover? Let me know when you get back from cloud cuckooland.
The coronavirus hoax is over. No use beating a dead horse.
78 posted on 07/17/2020 5:09:44 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: Wonder Warthog

well, you are welcome to take it however you want, however statistically, there is not a significant increase as the trend lines on a 7 day rolling average are flat, especially with the climbing number of cases. I am not making an emotional argument, I am merely doing the math.


79 posted on 07/17/2020 5:10:50 PM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: Mariner

It’s not true.

What’s true is that about 50% of people have brisk cell mediated immunity to SARS CoV 2. Antibodies have little or nothing to do with COVID immunity and are not the correct measure of immunity or resistance.

The peak infection percentage of any population anywhere is around 20%
However, of that 20%, a significant number of people become critically ill and represent a huge drain on hospitals - 600 doctors and nurses in the US have died since February.


80 posted on 07/17/2020 5:18:25 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Think like youÂ’re right, listen like youÂ’re wrong)
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