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UCSF scientists: coronavirus immunity only temporary?
SF Chronicle via Benecia Independent ^ | July 17th, 2020 | by Peter Fimrite

Posted on 07/17/2020 1:35:46 PM PDT by Mariner

Disturbing new revelations that permanent immunity to the coronavirus may not be possible have jeopardized vaccine development and reinforced a decision by scientists at UCSF and affiliated laboratories to focus exclusively on treatments.

Several recent studies conducted around the world indicate that the human body does not retain the antibodies that build up during infections, meaning there may be no lasting immunity to COVID-19 after people recover.

Strong antibodies are also crucial in the development of vaccines. So molecular biologists fear the only way left to control the disease may be to treat the symptoms after people are infected to prevent the most debilitating effects, including inflammation, blood clots and death.

“I just don’t see a vaccine coming anytime soon,” said Nevan Krogan, a molecular biologist and director of UCSF’s Quantitative Biosciences Institute, which works in partnership with 100 research laboratories. “People do have antibodies, but the antibodies are waning quickly.” And if antibodies diminish, “then there is a good chance the immunity from a vaccine would wane too.”

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: antibodies; chinavirus; immunity; scamdemic; shamdemic
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If true, it's HUGH.

It would reappear annually and continuously cull the weak.

Nightmare scenario.

1 posted on 07/17/2020 1:35:46 PM PDT by Mariner
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Interesting. Is this a feature that could’ve been engineered?


2 posted on 07/17/2020 1:37:16 PM PDT by Levy78
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It would mutate to progressively weaker forms like every other virus that’s come down the pike. We’ve never developed a successful coronavirus vaccine, so why were they so cock-sure they were going to do it this time?

Particularly since Fauci was the guy crowing the loduest, and he’s rarely been right about anything.


3 posted on 07/17/2020 1:38:40 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

“It would mutate to progressively weaker forms like every other virus that’s come down the pike”

It will certainly mutate.

Some good, some bad.


4 posted on 07/17/2020 1:40:04 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

MOST IMMUNITIES ARE TEMPORARY!

Why do you think flu shots are required every year?
Even pneumonia shots need booster shots every few years.


5 posted on 07/17/2020 1:41:49 PM PDT by entropy12 (covid-19 separates the fearful from the freedom loving! If I am not afraid, no one should be.)
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so the lock downs will go on until the end of time or until Trump leaves which ever comes first ,LOL


6 posted on 07/17/2020 1:42:34 PM PDT by butlerweave
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To: Mariner

It’s a common cold with the glowbull warming models. IOW,it’s a hoax.


7 posted on 07/17/2020 1:42:37 PM PDT by SanchoP (We're passed the biological softening up and beginning the open warfare strategy. WAKE UP!!)
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They don’t know. If I get it again I will let you know. I’m expecting to get something...I have had flu’s that were worse.


8 posted on 07/17/2020 1:42:41 PM PDT by Hildy (Don't get bitter, get better.)
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Yes but in general virus mutations trend towards less deadly.

A virus can’t reproduce by itself. Therefore a virus that kills it’s host becomes an evolutionary dead-ender.


9 posted on 07/17/2020 1:42:58 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: Mariner

And yet the oxford trial has demonstrated bot antibodies and T-cell immunity (memory cells) with antigenic challenge (dead virus). Making the likelihood of a single shot vaccine high. Oxford also believes that the vaccine will be ready in September for mass distribution.

I dont trust UCSF based on their political bent. I think this is fake news.


10 posted on 07/17/2020 1:43:55 PM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: Mariner

Fauci already said any vaccine would likely only be good for maybe 1-3 months.


11 posted on 07/17/2020 1:45:14 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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but the quantum dots of Gates,
and the retroviruses of FauXi,
and the babies parts of PeloXi,
will stay in the human DNA forever.


12 posted on 07/17/2020 1:45:27 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("when a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced")
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The article is so full of crap it is coming out of proverbial ears. I don’t know why people are so excited about bad news.

Russia is releasing a vaccine in August.
India is trying release a vaccine by August 15th.
UK (link below) is expecting to release a vaccine in Sept.

All three vaccines produced T-Cells and Antibodies. This article is nothing but fear, just like the inflated death rates. If the Northern Governors didn’t murder 50,000 people, if the actual death rate was reported correctly, if doctors didn’t kill patients wholesale by shoving them on ventilators way too early, if Z-Pacs/HCQ/Zinc treatment was provided early, this thing would barely be worst than the typically flu.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-oxford-vaccine-could-provide-double-protection-report-12029406?dcmp=snt-sf-twitter


13 posted on 07/17/2020 1:46:34 PM PDT by BushCountry (thinks he needs a gal whose name doesn't end in ".jpg")
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To: entropy12
We knew this back in Jan.

The Flu is temp immunity too .
There may never be a cure .

Viruses evolve .

Thank DR FTRUMP for the NIH millions in grant to the China Bat lady .

14 posted on 07/17/2020 1:46:38 PM PDT by ncalburt (Gop DC Globalists .)
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"If true, it's HUGH."
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15 posted on 07/17/2020 1:47:59 PM PDT by LouieFisk
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Watch out for those anti-coronavirus T-cells!!!!


16 posted on 07/17/2020 1:49:14 PM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: entropy12

“MOST IMMUNITIES ARE TEMPORARY!
Why do you think flu shots are required every year?
Even pneumonia shots need booster shots every few years.”

Yup. The hope here is that there are enough antibodies that it will last beyond a few months.


17 posted on 07/17/2020 1:50:35 PM PDT by LouieFisk
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To: Mariner

https://orthospinenews.com/2020/06/03/dr-anthony-fauci-says-theres-a-chance-coronavirus-vaccine-may-not-provide-immunity-for-very-long/


18 posted on 07/17/2020 1:51:37 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: gas_dr

From the article:

“The latest bad news came from scientists at King’s College of London, whose study of 90 COVID-19 patients in the United Kingdom found antibody levels peaked three weeks after the onset of symptoms and then dramatically declined.

Potent antibodies were found in 60% of the patients, according to the study, but only 17% retained the same potency three months later. In some cases, the antibodies disappeared completely, said the study which was published as a preprint Saturday, meaning it has not yet been peer-reviewed.”


19 posted on 07/17/2020 1:51:38 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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Second wave? Not even close!

https://off-guardian.org/2020/07/07/second-wave-not-even-close/

20 posted on 07/17/2020 1:51:58 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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