Posted on 07/16/2020 2:15:38 PM PDT by aimhigh
Ballot harvesting and extended vote windows invite trouble
If the 2020 pandemic makes vote-by-mail inevitable for this Novembers presidential election, the nation needs to know how not to do it the Oregon way, which encourages ballot harvesting.
In 1998, Secretary of State Phil Keisling introduced vote-by-mail to Oregon and the nation. At the time, it seemed a decent idea. But Keisling, a good government reformer, forgot one thing to secure the ballot box, instead leaving it wide open for 20 days of every election. Between special elections, primaries and general elections, Oregonians can literally spend months in the middle of an election.
The late Secretary of State Dennis Richardson, Oregons only Republican statewide office holder in 20 years, examined vote-by-mail and found very little Chicago-style fraud. What he didnt examine, and what Oregonians have had to deal with, is a more complicated corruption and an insidious part of the vote-by-mail process. Oregon just went through an election that demonstrates the problem.
In the May Oregon Democrat primary for secretary of state, State Sen. Shemia Fagan defeated State Sen. Mark Hass by a margin of 36.13% to 35.57%. But late on election night, Hass led Fagan by a few thousand votes. Two days later, with the help of late returns from Multnomah County, the states largest and most liberal county, Fagan was declared the winner by a narrow margin.
This was a movie Oregonians had seen before, most notably in 2010 when John Kitzhaber defeated former NBA veteran Chris Dudley. Like Hass, Dudley led on election night. However, election night leads in Oregon dont really matter, especially if the race is close. Days later, voters learned how successful the public employee unions had been at ballot harvesting, delivering the election to Kitzhaber.
Not only did Oregons dominant and powerful public employee unions fund Shemia Fagans campaign, they also delivered the office to her by ballot harvesting. Even fellow Democrat, State Rep. Alissa Keny-Guyer blasted Fagan for the obscene amounts of money from so few sources going into your campaign. And the regions most important publication, Willamette Week, warned, The way Fagan entered the race, however, raises questions about how she would govern. Despite these warnings, the unions delivered a last-minute victory, thanks to vote-by-mail.
Heres how that works. County election offices sell voter lists to campaigns. These lists include information about what political party a voter is registered in and how often they vote. Voters are characterized as 4×4 voters (voted in the last two general elections and primaries), 3×4 voters (skipped one of the last two primary elections), 2×4 voters, and so on.
But in Oregons vote-by-mail system, county elections offices dont just sell your party registration and voting history, they also regularly inform campaigns of the status of the voters ballot, usually daily throughout Oregons lengthy 18-day voting window. Ballot harvesting is when campaigns determine exactly which voters have already turned in their ballots, and then they come after those who have not. Lots of phone calls, lots of door knocks, lots of robocalls. If you purposely wait to vote until the last day (voters have realized that many major scandals havent surfaced until the final days of a campaign), the efforts border on outright harassment.
In a primary election, most 1×4 and 2×4 voters are not as likely to vote. Thats when the unions go to work. Dozens and dozens of public employee union workers build and track voter files daily on Democrat-leaning voters. Then they turn their public employee armies loose to gin up votes for their candidates.
Imagine the knock at your front door. The union member offers you a flyer for their candidate, then asks if youve voted yet (they know you havent). Next they offer to wait while you fill out your ballot. Maybe then they offer to return your ballot envelope. (If you indicated a preference for the other primary candidate, do you think your ballot will really be delivered?)
These voter files are thorough, accurate and effective in delivering votes that, without ballot harvesting, would not materialize. Make no mistake only the public employee unions have the muscle in Oregon to build a machine to develop and execute such sophisticated strategies. There is no paid army on the other side of the aisle with the same vested interest to grow and maintain its political power.
And theres another problem. Remember that in Oregon ballots are targeted to arrive in voters mailboxes 18 days prior to Election Day. Because of this extremely elongated voting cycle, costs of media buys, mailers and other campaign expenses are strung out and increased substantially. Advertising buys must be targeted prior to ballot drop, then again for ballot drop day, then again for the closing days of ballot return. Despite Democrat claims that they support reduced campaign spending, their efforts to increase vote-by-mail would drastically increase the costs of elections.
If county election offices hadnt provided the ballot status of Oregon voters, Mark Hass, not Shemia Fagan, would be Oregons next secretary of state, and he would likely be on his way to becoming Oregons next governor. But thats not the case.
Keeping the voting booth open for 18 days while campaigns have constant, daily access to voter status is anathema to clean campaigns and good government.
So before the nation goes all in on vote-by-mail, learn these important lessons from Oregon: First, secure the status of all voters throughout the mail-in process. Do not allow campaigns any access to voter status after ballots are mailed. Second, for the sake of reduced campaign spending, shorten the mail-in window to no more than 10 days.
Oregonians know that most ballots are returned in the first few days after delivery and in the last few days prior to the close of election. The two weeks in between have added nothing of value, instead adding expense and inviting campaign meddling through the insidious practice of ballot harvesting. Dont fall for it.
The only fair solution is just to declare trump has lost now ...any other solution is just too dangerous
I’m an Oregonian who usually waits until election day or the day before then (not by mail), drop my ballot at the drop box down at the county building.
I’ve never been solicited about the status of my ballot.
Maybe I’m the wrong party. Was registered Independent until a couple of years ago when a neighbor needed help in the primary and I changed it to R.
Maybe I’m too far out in the country for them to bother.
Maybe this is a made-up problem.
It pretty much says in the article that Republicans have no such system. The democrats don’t want you to send in your vote, so they won’t bother you.
cats, dogs, dead people, yeah they know how to do it
I have solicited people before...esp a GOP neighbor with 5 votes who still hadn’t voted day before election....if more people would be active PCPs...you’d get more solicitation. ..have you signed brown recall petition? ...@*)
You contribute to GOP? Or are you wealthy like Soros and you could fund vote harvesting?
Oregon ping
And, many from this subset know the political prefs residents just from the mail they deliver (SPLC junkmail v The NRA Rifleman, Dem PAC lit vs GOP PAC lit) it does not take a detective.)
And, many from this subset will have no compunction about somehow losing competed ballots from GOPers, and even indies.
If at all possible, VOTE IN PERSON, my good FRiends! And, tell YOUR friends and help them if they need it.
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If you want fraud (that is not provable), go to all vote-by-mail.
There is no doubt. Not really in question now. Two of my in-laws worked for them plus I used to sort and deliver university mail to dozens of campus places long ago. 99% Dem and they all know what kind of mail you get by envelopes with "Donald Trump Thanks You For Your Contribution", John Birch Society, and others on outside of envelopes. USPS were picketing the govt. shutdown outside alongside federal employees when Newt was Speaker. "We'll All Remember This in November" on signs.
Disallowing the county elections office to share voter’s ballot information after ballots have been mailed out is an easy fix and a good idea.
We don’t mail our ballots in anyway, we drop them off at the city hall box.
Oregon is unlikely to return to vote in person unless we change the general election to a month with better weather.
I do not want to ever stand in line in the damn pouring rain ever again. Let’s vote in July and inaugurate in November.
Oh yeah! At a socially un-distanced Independence Day party on a nearby cattle ranch. LOTS of signatures.
Well, there's your problem...
I can't argue this. Maybe it's some FOIA thing, but I like your idea.

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Oregons I mail in voting has been a complete democrat controlled JOKE. You have to sign your name on the outside envelope and sometimes democrats each receive 2 ballots each. No one oversees the counting. They count who they chose to count.
they voted some indian rez law last year which I think gives indians to vote whereever they want in the state...opening it up for multiple votes....before,they had to at least provide an address....
union money good, company money bad....
The thing that worries me the most about this election is that new Democrat Governors in eight states now control the elections. That’s eight more than when Donald Trump ran in 2016. Illinois, Kansas, Kentucky, Maine, Michigan, Nevada, New Mexico and Wisconsin.
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