PAPER: Now’s a good time to scrap Civil Asset Forfeiture

LA Daily News ^ | July 11 | Editorial Board

[faithhopecharity]

yes yes!
civil asset forfeiture purports to authorize police and state agents to take (steal, in effect) private American citizens’ property ... (noting also that the victims of this terrible practice are almost always innocent under the law when the cops/agents steal their goodies, money, whatever)

this practice incentivizes honest police and any involved judiciary to become corrupt as Hell

we must end this awful practice now!

[dp0622]

The beginning of this article starts on a falsehood. There was no need for a public discourse on police and race relationships. It was pure propaganda to take our president down.

When somebody starts an article stating the ridiculous, there is no reason to read any further.

I am sick of us giving in and having to read the first paragraph of every article by every limp-wristed Republican about how race relations and police abuse need to be talked about.

if you want to talk about civil Fortune then talk about it. Don’t bring this Floyd garbage into it

[ssfromla]

Thank goodness and I hope that this passes. There are too many incentives to go after innocent gun owners and such with nothing more than a phone call from snitch which most of the time is retaliation.

Drug dealers use the snitching ability to put their competitors out of business. Useful trolls use it to take out revenge. The no knock raids where they show up and kill the innocent and their pets has to be stopped.

The war on drugs is an unending money grabbing scheme by those in power that are usually shipping the drugs and weapons into this country.

[RandFan]

I think this is something the left and right can agree on to scrap it. Although the Establishment don’t want reform so it’s tough.

They won’t give up billions of loot easily .. we have discussed this before and remain pessimistic.

But at least we can advance the argument? Shrug.

[Sheapdog]

Jeff Sessions will be mighty unhappy.

[Behind Liberal Lines]

It’s an editorial by the editorial bard, not an article by a republican
That being said, I agree most freepers could do a better job excerpting things

[RandFan]

Hopefully he’ll be gone for good soon..

[immadashell]

Also needing to be addressed is the unfair advantage federal prosecutors have when a citizen elects to defend himself in court. The Feds will never run out of money while every defendant goes bankrupt presenting a drawn out defense. Prosecutors know this so will always present a plea bargain to a lesser charge to save time (while the defendant still goes to jail but for a shortened sentence). Courts need to rule on this unfair prosecutorial advantage by making the government foot the bill.

[NobleFree]

Paul’s Fifth Amendment Integrity Restoration Act would eliminate financial incentives for local law enforcement agencies to participate in civil asset forfeiture in partnership with federal agencies by repealing “equitable sharing” between federal and state and local agencies of seizure revenues.

It would also raise the threshold for forfeiture by requiring “clear and convincing evidence” that a seized asset is linked to a crime, instead of the current “preponderance of the evidence” standard.

Outstanding!

[meadsjn]

Leftist editorial trying to protect Billions, perhaps Trillions, that will be seized from mostly leftist human traffickers.

[Bob434]

The killing of George Floyd...

George Floyd Killed George Floyd-

What is a fatal dose of Fentanyl? The average death dose was 9.96 ng/mL

Floyd’s blood contained 11.0 ng/mL Fentanyl, plus 5.6 ng/mL norfentanyl, 19 ng/mL of methamphetamine, and three other drugs

Also Note the extensive heart disease that Floyd had from the autopsy report:

II. Natural diseases

A. Arteriosclerotic heart disease, multifocal, severe

B. Hypertensive heart disease

1. Cardiomegaly (540 g) with mild biventricular

dilatation

2. Clinical history of hypertension

Note the finding of No life-threatening injuries:

III. No life-threatening injuries identified

A. No facial, oral mucosal, or conjunctival petechiae

B. No injuries of anterior muscles of neck or laryngeal

structures

C. No scalp soft tissue, skull, or brain injuries

D. No chest wall soft tissue injuries, rib fractures (other

than a single rib fracture from CPR), vertebral column

injuries, or visceral injuries

Notice the fatal dose of the opioid fentanyl in the toxicology report:

VI. Toxicology (see attached report for full details; testing

performed on antemortem blood specimens collected 5/25/20 at

9:00 p.m. at HHC and on postmortem urine)

A. Blood drug and novel psychoactive substances screens:

1. Fentanyl 11 ng/mL

2. Norfentanyl 5.6 ng/mL

3. 4-ANPP 0.65 ng/mL

4. Methamphetamine 19 ng/mL

5. 11-Hydroxy Delta-9 THC 1.2 ng/mL;

Delta-9 Carboxy THC 42 ng/mL; Delta-9 THC 2.9 ng/mL

6. Cotinine positive

7. Caffeine positive

[NobleFree]

Leftist editorial trying to protect Billions, perhaps Trillions,

So to you, seizing assets with no criminal charges ever filed is a conservative policy?

that will be seized from mostly leftist human traffickers.

Where's the evidence for that "mostly"?

[UnwashedPeasant]

Yes! Leverage this moment to eliminate REAL corruption, including police unions and other government unions.

[eyeamok]

I don’t think we should scrap it, we should modify it so it ONLY APPLIES to PUBLIC SERVANTS and it should be Mandatory for the State to Sieze their Assets upon being accused of Corruption

[Noamie]

I am in LE. I do not care for civil asset forfeiture and would be ok with it being eliminated or totally reformed.

[RandFan]

Glad to hear it ... the problem is those higher up will oppose any reforms to their cash cow.

What about no knock warrants?

[Noamie]

“What about no knock warrants?”

I feel that they have their place, but it is outside what most people think of.

You ever serve a warrant on a MS-13 drug house with kidnap victims inside? They never seem to just open that door voluntarily... Who knows why. :)

[usurper]

we must end this awful practice now!

There's more to it. Every day the Border Patrol and CBP seizes hundreds of vehicles used by drug and human smugglers.

Do we really want to just give their vehicles back. That will make their operational costs go way down.

[Spktyr]

That is criminal forfeiture, where the vehicle is seized as evidence of a crime someone is then pretty much immediately arrested for.

Civil forfeiture does not require charges to *ever* be filed. Let alone a conviction to be obtained.