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Trump says he'll sign order with 'road to citizenship' for DACA recipients
The Hill ^ | 10 July 2020 | RAFAEL BERNAL

Posted on 07/10/2020 5:46:24 PM PDT by zeestephen

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To: Hattie

He is showing the entire country what a farce the Supreme Court is today.

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How is he doing that? He’s wilting before the SCOTUS’ harassment of his own executive order.


101 posted on 07/10/2020 6:47:09 PM PDT by Bishop_Malachi (Liberal Socialism - A philosophy which advocates spreading a low standard of living equally.)
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To: Lurkinanloomin
FOR THE WALL TO WORK THEY GOTTA BE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FENCE!
102 posted on 07/10/2020 6:50:21 PM PDT by MS.BEHAVIN (Women who behave rarely make history)
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To: zeestephen

Thanks. I’ll wait to see what the actual E.O. contains before going off half-cocked, and making a fool of myself down the road. I’m still voting for him. There is no other choice if we want to save this nation.


103 posted on 07/10/2020 6:50:30 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne)
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To: Viking2002; cdcdawg

It’s looking like Trump misspoke. We heard him say he was going to cancel DACA on day one. What he really meant was he was going to sign it into law.


104 posted on 07/10/2020 6:50:52 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

But calling Trump in favor of amnesty is disingenuous. He was calling for a path to citizenship for DACA kids way back in 2016, so it’s not like he became a turncoat.

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These two sentences together contradict one another. Granting the Dreamers a special path to citizenship that other immigrants do not get is a form of amnesty. It rewards the families of those who came here illegally. We can engage in mental gymnastics to ease the pain of swallowing the castor oil. We can even say things like, “Tanredo supports it and he’s an illegal immigration hard-ass”, but it’s still unjust and still sends the same bad message...namely those who come here illegally will get special treatment over those who do not.


105 posted on 07/10/2020 6:52:05 PM PDT by Bishop_Malachi (Liberal Socialism - A philosophy which advocates spreading a low standard of living equally.)
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To: TribalPrincess2U

We’ll be a one party country and it will happen anyway.


106 posted on 07/10/2020 6:53:55 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents|Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: MS.BEHAVIN

Thank you


107 posted on 07/10/2020 6:54:31 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents|Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: delta7

He knows that simply booting them out will be DOA with the Democrats controlling the House and with anti-Trump Republicans in the Senate. So what he is offering is something that would be rediculous and irrational to say no to, such as criminally background checking people for a history of crimes such as robbery, murder, etc, and examining what they plan to contribute via education and career.


108 posted on 07/10/2020 6:54:57 PM PDT by Morpheus2009 (If you want me to be afraid, then be consistent in your logic, standards, and your lies!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Agreed


109 posted on 07/10/2020 6:55:05 PM PDT by dp0622 (TRUMP!)
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To: zeestephen

Election-year pandering. Still not enough to get me to vote for a Democrat, though.


110 posted on 07/10/2020 6:55:57 PM PDT by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: servantboy777
What's the damn alternative to open borders that both major parties favor and enact through the backdoor in most cases?

The futility of refusing to die on the hill for sovereign borders (Enforcing legislation, not excusing policies forged from administrative law derived from an illegal EO) is a broken record limited government proponents are tired of listening to and the strategy of going in the fetal position is a prelude to lost elections for Republicans. Reagan lost the Senate because of amnesty, Trump is on his way to probably losing the WH and the Senate if this stuff is true. Illegals are taking over positions of citizens, wrap your mind around that one, because the alternative is quite crystal clear if you ask me.

What do you tell a person who went through the proper channels costing thousands of $$$ to gain their citizenship? The alternative is to stay home or go third party (Historically) along with other people who are tired of getting shafted by "political strategies" of short-sighted Republicans.
111 posted on 07/10/2020 6:56:45 PM PDT by rollo tomasi
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To: zeestephen

This is for the MS-13 vote.


112 posted on 07/10/2020 6:57:34 PM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (Trump is solving the world's problems only to distract us from Russia.)
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To: A Formerly Proud Canadian

Never.

That’s not what he has to worry about.
Some people just won’t bother.
He got elected to reverse the Bush Plan for North Mexico (aka USA), not complete it.
We could have voted for Yeb! for that.


113 posted on 07/10/2020 6:57:53 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents|Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Morpheus2009

That is already a part of DACA. You can’t get DACA status if you fail the criminal background check.


114 posted on 07/10/2020 6:58:11 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: Bishop_Malachi
Think about it..Bush, Clinton/Clinton, Bush/Bush, Obozo/Obozo...that's 28 years of leftist/globalists policy. Trump's had 3 3/4 years to push our agenda...all with those F’n leftists commies riding his @$$ heavy. The only friends Trump has is you and I. The only political friend we have..is Trump. Yes, maybe a small hand full of republicans, but very few.

I have NEVER agreed with anyone 100%. Trump wasn't even my choice for president, but I'm damn glad he is my president and I'm going to support him regardless of a “this or that”.

Because of Trump's track record up till now...I know for certain I will be better off with him in office. He loses, we will likely lose the Senate. The house will remain in leftists hands and they will be in the driver's seat to pick the next two...possibly three supreme court justices.

Yea..Daca or no Daca bulls4!7..Trump's the dude for me.

115 posted on 07/10/2020 6:58:16 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: plain talk

I just agreed with somebody who thought it was a good idea. After reading your post I think it’s not. Now my head hurts :-)

is it something he can just turn around and say he changed his mind on four months from now?

The person I agreed with said it is taking the discussion away from the Democrats. But I don’t know if it will get him many votes because of it anyway.


116 posted on 07/10/2020 6:58:31 PM PDT by dp0622 (TRUMP!)
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To: Spirochete

Regardless, they will never vote for him.

You don’t know that. Most Latinos are good hard working people. They come with a good Christian foundation (mostly Catholic).

We’re not sending 20,000,000 to Mexico or Central America. Let’s send the ones that have committed violent crimes home.

Let’s get them paying into the system.

Unlike the black community, I believe most will take great pride in being part of the USA.

Trump may not win the Latino vote but if he wins more of it, it may help us keep the White House.


117 posted on 07/10/2020 6:58:51 PM PDT by boycott
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Re: “such a provision simply won't pass, especially since the DemonRats control the House.”

Trump does not need to pass anything.

Congress established the current laws in the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952.

Trump is the Chief Executive Officer of the USA federal government. He swore to enforce our laws.

All Trump has to do is tell the Secretary of Homeland Security to remove the DACA kids because - according to the exact language in the INA 1952 - they are unlawfully present in the USA.

An Executive Order like that cannot even be reviewed by a federal judge.

The constitutionality of the law can be challenged, but it remains in force until the Supreme Court overturns it.

Bottom Line...

Trump has made it clear since 2015 that he will never deport any DACAs, unless they are dangerous criminals.

118 posted on 07/10/2020 6:59:23 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: TribalPrincess2U

Exactly. You are correct


119 posted on 07/10/2020 7:00:17 PM PDT by deek69
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To: Morpheus2009

It’s amnesty if that happens. Going to turn off a lot of people in key electoral States, especially if the economy isn’t up to snuff.


120 posted on 07/10/2020 7:00:55 PM PDT by rollo tomasi
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