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All the Libs know for certain is that the death rates are much higher than Conservatives claim.

They have "Scientific Consensus".

1 posted on 07/06/2020 3:04:23 PM PDT by NoLibZone
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To: NoLibZone

This is a great link for all the covid-19 information you want to know but were afraid to ask...

https://covidusa.net/


2 posted on 07/06/2020 3:14:16 PM PDT by entropy12 (covid-19 separates the fearful from the freedom loving! If I am not afraid, no one should be.)
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Gianourmous Upswing in ‘Cases’ the Leftymedia shrieks ...

We have MORE TESTING going on now than ever,

OF COURSE they are going to detect MORE ‘cases’ of people having the Virus.

BUT thats not DEATHS, thats NOT Hospitalizations. Simply the increased testing has shown more people having test indicators of having the virus.

DEATH RATES ?

How many are Illegal Aliens ??

How many are Chinese Tourists ?

How many are over 75 years old.

How many are the ones in NYC where the Dem idiots PUT WUFLU patients in to infect Retirement Homes and Care Facilities ??

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4 posted on 07/06/2020 3:30:10 PM PDT by elbook
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To: NoLibZone
Corona virus: 11 million people worldwide have/had it, killing more than 525,000.

That's a WHOPPING 0.04772727272% of the world's population.
And, China will send out ANOTHER virus this next winter. It's THEIR fault 100% and they KNOW it.
They won't change because clean = expensive; filthy = cheap.
Since MONEY is one of the two things the Chinese (in China) believe in...nothing will change there.

The ONLY leverage the US has with China falls in the $$$$ category: clean up their act or we import A LOT fewer Chinese products.

OR

Forbid Americans going there.
Yikes. That would rattle MANY cages.

5 posted on 07/06/2020 3:33:22 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: NoLibZone

...and yet the politicians keep tightening the screws...


6 posted on 07/06/2020 3:33:22 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...siameserescue.org)
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To: NoLibZone

I don’t know if the young are less likely to get infected, but I just read an article explaining that they have remarkably low mortality rates when they do. Some sadly do succumb but the odds are very low for people 45 and under. People 45-70 fare worse outcome odds, and people over 70 are most vulnerable to death - all relatively/statistically speaking. Then of course add the other variables like underlying conditions.

Of course it is obvious and it has been pounded into our heads, the young may not be likely to get very sick from it but they can dang sure spread it to others when they do. This is especially risky among the asymptomatic youth who don’t even know they are carrying the virus so they don’t even think to take precautions in their human interactions. Despite a statewide mask wearing law, I stopped into the market last week and a group of teens were standing in the line without masks. Nobody accosted them :-)

The rate of spread in NJ just went back over 1.0 for the first time in months, which means for every 1 person who catches the virus, they are likely to infect more than just 1 other person. And we’re hearing about Arizona (Mexico just closed the border), Florida, Texas etc. NJ Governor is blaming at least part of the spike on out of state travelers.

And I’ve read some sick gambling that young kids are doing, like getting a group together to put $20 in a hat and whomever in the group catches it first wins the pot. We’ve all done foolish things in our youth but usually just to ourselves. But then again, there are people out there who just can’t wait to line up for some yet to be developed, barely tested for long term safety or efficacy “vaccine”.


9 posted on 07/06/2020 3:57:15 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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Ask Governor Cuomo. He’ll ask you, “How deadly do you want it to be?”


11 posted on 07/06/2020 4:07:31 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: NoLibZone
We'll never know.

The disease reporting has been corrupted by politics, prejudices, personal philosophy and of course money.

Anyone who is in a position to do so and that has had the opportunity to report the stats of this pandemic has had the opportunity to report the results in any way they choose.

You can be sure that the overall reporting of CV-19 is a reflection of whatever ax the reporters were grinding at the time of the report and that the final results, when available, will support whatever proposition the individual reporter was looking for.

14 posted on 07/06/2020 4:26:04 PM PDT by skimbell
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About the same as Influenza!


19 posted on 07/06/2020 4:53:12 PM PDT by Artcore (Trump 2020!)
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Good strategy from CDC! Unfortunately, they are NOT following it.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/serology-surveillance/index.html

According to CDC reporting (in this June 25 article) the latest data collected was 5/03/2020, and that data was only reported on June 25 (now 2 months out of date, and not very useful for evaluating current covid-19 statistics).

It's pretty clear to me that the Seroprevalence Survey Data is exactly what is needed to properly determine the Infection Fatality Rate (IFR) for Covid-19.

There are actually two "death rate" statistics the general population is concerned about: the "population fatality rate" (risk of anyone in the population dying of this disease) and the "infection fatality rate" (risk of an infected person dying of this disease).

Given all the "fear mongering" from NIH representative Dr. Anthony Fauci, and misleading representations of "Death Rates" from CDC and WORLDOMETER COVID-19 DEATHS, it's pretty clear that CDC has been complicit in supporting this continuously misleading representation.

I believe it is past time for a serious challenge to CDC.

CDC, GOOD PLAN! Why aren't you executing it?

21 posted on 07/06/2020 5:47:55 PM PDT by Grandpa Drudge (Just an old man, desperate to preserve our great country for my grandchildren.)
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To: NoLibZone
Here are the actual Seroprevalence Survey results, from the CDC Commercial Laboratory Seroprevalence Survey Data Released on June 25, 2020:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/commercial-lab-surveys.html

OK, now that some seroprevalence survey results are finally available (even though they are at least two months out of date (and not really accurately applicable to current up to date Covid-19 tracking) I'll display how to use them anyway.

New York (note Metro area not necessarily same as state)

total cases = 422,268 total deaths= 32,248
4/01/2020 seroprevalence survey adjustment 12X higher Total Infections = 5,067,216

32.248 deaths / 5,067,216 = IFR (Infection Fatality Rate) 0.63%

Connecticut

total cases = 46,717 total deaths= 4,335
5/03/2020 seroprevalence survey adjustment 6X higher Total Infections = 280,302

4,335 deaths / 280,302 = IFR (Infection Fatality Rate) 1.54%

Western Washington State (note western area not necessarily same as state)

total cases = 36708 total deaths= 1,359
4/01/2020 seroprevalence survey adjustment 11X higher Total Infections = 403,788

1,359 deaths / 403,788 = IFR (Infection Fatality Rate) 0.33%

South Florida (note South Florida not necessarily same as state)

total cases = 200,111 total deaths= 3,732
4/10/2020 seroprevalence survey adjustment 11X higher Total Infections = 2,201,221

3,732 deaths / 2,201,221 = IFR (Infection Fatality Rate) 0.17%

Missouri

total cases = 24,444 total deaths= 1,074
4/26/2020 seroprevalence survey adjustment 24X higher Total Infections = 586,656

1,074 deaths / 586,656 = IFR (Infection Fatality Rate) 0.18%

Utah

total cases =24,952 total deaths= 184
5/03/2020 seroprevalence survey adjustment 11X higher Total Infections = 274,472

184 deaths / 274,472 = IFR (Infection Fatality Rate) 0.07%

22 posted on 07/06/2020 5:48:53 PM PDT by Grandpa Drudge (Just an old man, desperate to preserve our great country for my grandchildren.)
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To: NoLibZone

Its about 0.1% fatal. In the first few months it was more deadly, mostly because we did not know what we were fighting. We didn’t know which drugs and procedures worked, and which did not. Now we know lots of things that work, and we know many tools not to use. Had China not lied in the beginning, countries like Italy could have learned earlier what works and what would not. We would have learned how it spread. And how deadly it was. China may not have been able to stop the virus, once their incompetence let it out. But they could have shared data which helped other countries fight it. So you could blame half the deaths so far on China’s incompetence. But the other half you have to blame on their cowardice and total disregard for people’s lives. Given the existence of Taiwan, we know that Chinese people are not inherently bad. But the CCP is devoid of a common sense of decency and humanity. They have too much power for the world to allow them to exist uncheck.


25 posted on 07/06/2020 6:32:25 PM PDT by poinq
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