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We Can’t Have ‘National Dialogues’ If People Get Fired For Talking Honestly
The Federalist ^ | 07/03/2020 | John Loftus

Posted on 07/03/2020 7:11:55 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 07/03/2020 7:11:55 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Good article. Anyone who actually tries to have an honest conversation about the radical politics sweeping our cities is immediately branded a White Supremacist. I’m not playing that game.


2 posted on 07/03/2020 7:20:27 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: SeekAndFind
The EVIL most fundamental to the decadence of Western Civilisation is contempt for TRUTH--TRUTH for its own sake.
3 posted on 07/03/2020 7:20:56 AM PDT by Savage Beast (President Trump, praying for guidance, giving his salary to charity, is on the Side of the Angels.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The topic that cannot be discussed. “Shut Up!” they explained.


4 posted on 07/03/2020 7:21:17 AM PDT by Not_Who_U_Think
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To: SeekAndFind

Honest dialogue is not part of this attempted coup! Nor is honesty itself. Remember, rip van biden already said they’ll choose truth over fact. And they’ll tell you what truth to believe.


5 posted on 07/03/2020 7:21:23 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: SeekAndFind

The Left’s discussion on racism: “Shut up, you racist!”


6 posted on 07/03/2020 7:22:17 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: SeekAndFind

When the Left asks for a “dialog” or a “conversation”, they mean only one thing. They want to lecture you while you silently listen.

But it doesn’t end there. After the lecture you must agree with everything you were told. Even a 99% agreement isn’t good enough.

Leftist: Do you agree with what I just said?
Citizen: I agree with everything except the part about removing Lincoln’s statue.
Leftist: You filthy racist!


7 posted on 07/03/2020 7:22:42 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Honest dialogue” = you listening and agreeing with them. It’s meant that for years.


8 posted on 07/03/2020 7:22:51 AM PDT by Stravinsky (Politeness will not defeat the Marxist revolutionaries)
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To: SeekAndFind

After the statues come down, military installation names are changed, white virtue is signaled, police are defunded, etc., is it likely, as a result, that drugs will disappear from their street corners or education will be more valued or crime rates will decline or the teenage illegitimacy rates will recede or more black fathers will stay in the home? Doubtful when 95% of their effort is looking for blame for the dysfunction in the community outside the community while only 5% is spent on realistically trying to confront the root causes and toxic values within the community that cause it.


9 posted on 07/03/2020 7:23:19 AM PDT by chuckee
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To: SeekAndFind

Great article but it still advocates playing on their turf.


10 posted on 07/03/2020 7:23:21 AM PDT by ARW
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To: kosciusko51

I find in general, black people are willing to talk honestly about it.

It’s the white liberals that hurl insults and call you ‘racist’.

I joke that the Black radicals, are just white liberals in a black body.


11 posted on 07/03/2020 7:24:07 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I have no interest in a “national dialogue” about anything.


12 posted on 07/03/2020 7:25:47 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("We're human beings ... we're not f#%&ing animals." -- Dennis Rodman, 6/1/2020)
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These people want America and it's history ERASED!

This is NOT about "dialogue" or "compromise.

These idiots don't even know what some of these statues represent.

see my tagline....

13 posted on 07/03/2020 7:25:52 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no merit in compromising with the Devil.)
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To: chuckee

Or people who celebrate that the sum accomplishment of the Civil Rights movement was that black people can say a word that white people can’t.


14 posted on 07/03/2020 7:26:24 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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Noticed this on other boards and forums

That “honest discussion about race“ that Eric Holder said but never followed up on for obvious reasons never happens because liberals in general and blacks in particular deny any defects in their culture behavior and words

They are always right always victims and always with their hands out


15 posted on 07/03/2020 7:28:09 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (See St George's Rap Sheet . . . TAG PedoJoe with "DEFUND the POLICE")
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To: SeekAndFind

Any discussion would have to include basic biological and cognitive indicators based in genetics.

And THAT will never be allowed to take place. So no chance of an honest dialogue.

Easier to just blame whitey.


16 posted on 07/03/2020 7:32:43 AM PDT by Macoozie (Handcuffs and Orange Jumpsuits)
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My approach when people say that we should have an honest conversation about race.

Do not argue. Ask. It goes something like this:

Q “Why do we need a conversation?”

A So people can learn.

Q Wouldn’t a lecture be better for learning than a conversation?

A1: Yes.

If so, then we do not need a conversation. Thank you.

A2: (something like this) People learn better from conversations.

Q: So people on both sides would say things that are right, and then they would both agree? In that case, what’s the point of a conversation?

A: No people would voice their views and then other people could show them where they are wrong and help them learn.

Q: OK give me an example of something that you believe is wrong, but it would be good for people to verbalize it.

A variation of this approach in Constitutional discussions: give me an example of a government policy that you believe to be wrong but if voters voted for it that’s their prerogative and the court would have no reason to strike it down.


17 posted on 07/03/2020 7:33:55 AM PDT by edwinland
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“Establishment Republicans made the same mistake by ignoring the movement’s radical premise”

That’s the history of the established Republicans. At the first sign of Democrats being aggressive the they faint until things calm down again. Then they blather about what should have been done.


18 posted on 07/03/2020 7:35:35 AM PDT by antidemoncrat (uff)
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I believe you may be right, but the ones I see and hear on my local media don’t act that way.


19 posted on 07/03/2020 7:36:23 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: SeekAndFind

The racism card is over played due to the election honesty has little to do with the actions going on.
Felons slackers and every small time crooks hate cops because the get busted time to realize the gravy train is derailed.
Racism is what some want it to be facts or not.


20 posted on 07/03/2020 7:46:35 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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