FACT: Mask Mandates UNLAWFUL In US

Market-Ticker.org ^ | 07/02/20 | Karl Denninger

[jonascord]

"If the COVID virus is 30 nm in diameter, then what protection is actually afforded by an N-95 type mask that protects down to 100 nm?"

Ask a Democrat what a nanometer is. You'll get a blank stare. Math is hard.

It's why they like advanced degrees that depend on individual opinion. They don't actually have to prove anything, and it's not reproducible.

[who knows what evil?]

Bkmrk.

[eyeamok]

intended to help reduce

The Operating words in their disclaimer, this means NOTHING LEGALLY and makes NO Guarantee or Claim of Prevention. In other words the MASK is Useless, otherwise they would say it PREVENTS!!!

[PrairieLady2]

I had to go to the hospital today for a pre-op covid test..that they are billing my insurance for. They gave me a mask at the front entry that I held in my hand and never did put on. Nobody said a word till it was time to leave and I was headed out the front door.

Im glad to have some medical ammunition in the form of laws. I’m fed up with this stupid nonsense. I see all people pull their masks off when folks leave and hurriedly put them on when people come around.

I eill quickly praise you when you do right and well, but I will also verbally chastise you for BS.

[Vendome]

For a law to be effective and lawful it has to meet a standard.

Coverings meet ZERO standard and I have been telling everyone that a N95 has a standard but, the fraud givernment isn’t telling everyone to meet a standard that has some medical efficacy...

[fireman15]

Trying to win a political argument by attacking the science behind wearing a face covering only hurts your own position.

You have drank about ten gallons of leftist Koo-laid on this one. There is NO SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE THAT WEARING A PIECE OF THIN FABRIC OVER YOUR FACE PREVENTS OR EVEN LESSONS THE CHANCE OF TRANSMISSION OF COVID-19 FROM AN INFECTED PERSON. NONE, ABSOLUTELY NONE. All we have are unsupported “models” based on unproven assumptions. “SCIENCE” and has become a meaningless political term when used by leftists. I suggest that you try to find an actual study not relying on models to support the belief that has been stamped into you by the mainstream media and political activists.

[kosciusko51]

Correct. Some links to back up your claim:

https://apps.who.int/iris/rest/bitstreams/1279750/retrieve

“At present, there is no direct evidence (from studies on COVID-19 and in healthy people in the community) on the effectiveness of universal masking of healthy people in the community to prevent infection with respiratory viruses, including COVID-19.”

And

“At the present time, the widespread use of masks by healthy people in the community setting is not yet supported by high quality or direct scientific evidence and there are potential benefits and harms to consider...”

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2006372

“It is also clear that masks serve symbolic roles. Masks are not only tools, they are also talismans that may help increase health care workers’ perceived sense of safety, well-being, and trust in their hospitals. Although such reactions may not be strictly logical, we are all subject to fear and anxiety, especially during times of crisis. One might argue that fear and anxiety are better countered with data and education than with a marginally beneficial mask, particularly in light of the worldwide mask shortage, but it is difficult to get clinicians to hear this message in the heat of the current crisis. Expanded masking protocols’ greatest contribution may be to reduce the transmission of anxiety, over and above whatever role they may play in reducing transmission of Covid-19. The potential value of universal masking in giving health care workers the confidence to absorb and implement the more foundational infection-prevention practices described above may be its greatest contribution.”

[mac_truck]

Good grief, you don't need a "study" to understand basic science. Even a dope like you should be able to understand this stuff.

Now go hump someone else's leg, I've got barbecue to attend to.

[Polynikes]

“Seems to me that, at the least, the N95 is lawful. Bandanas, cloth masks and the like are not.”

Well then there is a problem. How do you restrict Burqas, Hijabs etc as unlawful.

[Polynikes]

Really? You trust her?. Lets see the CDC controlled test. I’ll wait.

[DoodleDawg]

Yeah take that argument to the courts and see where it gets you.

[fireman15]

Now go hump someone else’s leg, I've got barbecue to attend to.

Your understanding of science is astounding! That experiment by Sophi proves that wearing a mask made out of an old t-shirt face can protect a petri dish from getting moldy. Wow, Einstein... who'd a thunk it?

[fireman15]

Now go hump someone else’s leg, I've got barbecue to attend to.

Your understanding of science is astounding! That experiment by Sophi proves that wearing a mask made out of an old t-shirt face can protect a petri dish from getting moldy. Wow, Einstein... who'd a thunk it?

[mac_truck]

Are you saying the trained microbiologist who conducted the test in her laboratory and posted the results online doesn’t understand science?

[fireman15]

No, I am saying that you don't understand “science”, that in fact you don't have even the slightest clue. I spent 25 years hauling people with serious communicable respiratory ailments in the back of small rescue enclosed rigs to the hospital. I was fit tested for both N-95 type masks and SCBA face pieces twice a year. I was the senior officer on a big city Hazmat Team for years. I understand masks and their limitations; you unfortunately do not. A homemade “mask” made from a piece of T-shirt fabric is basically a completely worthless piece of feel good nonsense as are 99% of the rest of what you see people sporting these days. The “experiment” that you linked to was a “Bill Nye the Science” guy type of demonstration if it was meant for anything other than entertainment it was a complete fraud.

[mac_truck]

I spent 25 years hauling people with serious communicable respiratory ailments in the back of small rescue enclosed rigs to the hospital.

Were those people screened and given face masks to wear in route?

A homemade “mask” made from a piece of T-shirt fabric is basically a completely worthless piece of feel good nonsense

Straw-man assertion...enjoy the bonfire.

[fireman15]

No, they were not “screened” on the way to the hospital, but we did our best to collect information about their situation, medical history and condition that were noted on reports that we gave to the hospital staff.

Most people who are having difficulty breathing will not tolerate a filter mask, but we did give many O2 masks that we could give albuterol treatments and other medications with.

[fireman15]

There is nothing “straw man” about the assertion that the homemade masks are basically worthless... there is no evidence other than the types of parlor tricks that you provided that they do any good. And they do cause difficulties for some individuals.