Mississippi gov might not block change to rebel-themed flag

www.news4jax.com ^ | June24, 2020 | Emily Wagster Pettus

[Yosemitest]

ACKSON, Miss.

[pnz1]

Because of the red “X” on it?

“Between 1868 and 1900, Florida’s state flag consisted of a white field with the state seal in the center. During the late 1890s, Governor Francis P. Fleming suggested that a red cross be added, so that the banner did not appear to be a white flag of truce or surrender when hanging still on a flagpole.”

[lodi90]

The revolutionary left needs to be counter punched and put off balance. Direct attacks on Robert Byrd, Woodrow Wilson, slavery connection to leftits Universities, etc. Get Dems playing defense and obviously they won’t be on offense.

[Salamander]

Eventually, there will be nothing left but MLK and Byrd statues...and a lot of frustrated pigeons.

[dfwgator]

They’ll eventually come for MLK.

[Repeat Offender]

Keep voting until we get our way......it isn't faaaair, boo hoo hoo.

They already voted to keep it.

What's the point in voting on anything if the end result will always be the same?

[Salamander]

That would surprise me.

[dfwgator]

He wasn’t radical enough.

[Yosemitest]

They took two polls, very small amount of people polled, on the matter; one by Chism Strategies (sample size was 540 with a margin of error of 4.38%), and one by Tarrance Group (sample size of 500 likely voters and a margin of error of 4.5%), and the actual questionnaire from Tarrance Group on the Mississippi Flag, I cannot find, but here's their final memo that I can find.

Here is the Chism Strategies Mississippi Statewide Survey - June 10, 2020.

Statewide MS Poll Shows Voters Equally Divided Over Retiring State Flag

Last night Chism Strategies conducted a statewide survey to measure voter opinion on the current state flag.  We found likely voters are statistically tied on whether to keep or replace the state’s flag that contains the Confederate battle emblem.

• 61% of white respondents want to keep the state flag, with the greatest measure of support among seniors, who favor keeping the flag 71%-17%.
• 84% of African Americans want to replace the state flag and are 8% more likely than whites who agree with them to say this issue is “very important.”
• Support for the flag splits along party lines with strong Republicans supporting it 81%-11% and strong Democrats opposing it 74%-17%. However, self-styled independents favor replacing the flag 54% to 32%, and a third of voters who say they only lean Republican support replacing the flag.
• A majority of voters under age 65 support removing the current state flag (52 to 41%) , but voters age 65 and older support keeping the current flag 62%-25%.
• Enthusiasm is high on both sides of the argument— four in five supporters AND opponents of the current flag say the matter is “very important” to them.
• For voters who wish to replace the state flag , there is strong support for both the Unity argument (the current flag is a racist symbol that divides us) and the National Image  argument (it keeps people and businesses from moving here and hurts our economy). For Republican voters who want to replace the state flag, the argument about its effect on our national image holds more weight, while for Democrats, the notion that the flag is a racist symbol is closer to their opinion.
• For those who want to keep the state flag, the overwhelming response is that the flag is part of our heritage and to replace it means turning our backs on history.

To fully understand the significance of these survey results one must consider that 19 years ago, nearly two thirds of voters (64.6%) rejected the idea of a new state flag. 

About five years ago, a Chism Strategies statewide poll found that  [1] only 39% of voters agreed that the current state flag limited outside investment and hurt tourism. 48% disagreed. Moreover, 55% of voters felt the 2011 referendum had settled the issue while only 27% wanted a new vote. 

In the fall of 2017, a Chism Strategies statewide poll [2] found that for the first time ever supporters of the state flag were less than a majority (49.1%) but they still out polled those who wanted a new flag (40.7%). We saw for the first time that a majority of whites under age 55 supported changing the state flag.

 

About the Survey:    This survey was conducted June 10, 2020.  The sample size was 540 with a margin of error of 4.38% with 50.4% from landlines and 49.6% from mobile phones.  We weighted results to reflect the likely partisan, age, race and gender composition of the general election turnout. Whites comprise 65% and African Americans make up 33% of the sample. The partisan mix is 48% Republican, /38% Dem. And 14% Ind.   Chism Strategies undertook this survey with no input nor funding from any outside individual or organization.

[rustbucket]

Here is a guide to Texas property taxes and appraisal for you:

https://www.traviscad.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/96-1425-Property-Tax-Basics.pdf

I have successfully used the appeal procedure to reduce several proposed tax increases on houses I have owned in Texas. Usually because the comparable houses they used to justify my increase were not comparable or they did not consider other sales.

I do envy your 2% a year increase on appraised values. Ten percent a year is the limit here. However, that hasn’t stopped Californians from selling their expensive, much smaller houses in California and buying much bigger houses in Texas for the same money.

[Kickass Conservative]

Last year we sold our House in Southern CA to a Dentist who moved from TX. He still has a House in Dallas that he had built and he is now renting it out.

I think his Wife wanted to move to CA to be near Family and he went along. Probably a happy Wife, happy Life scenario.

[rustbucket]

There were for more Californians than Texans at a new home-owner meeting in our somewhat affluent area in Texas when we moved in. We have had several Californians as neighbors in our present house, all of whom mentioned the lower Texas home prices. One California family in particular mentioned the terrible school system they left in Southern California compared to what they found here.

With all of the Californians here in our Texas neighborhood, one downside was that our voting precinct barely went Democrat over Republican.

[Kickass Conservative]

>>>With all of the Californians here in our Texas neighborhood, one downside was that our voting precinct barely went Democrat over Republican<<<

Yeah, that’s the downside. We lived in formerly Conservative South Orange County. When the Rats won every Congressional Seat, or should I say “harvested” Votes and won all the seats, I just gave up.

Liberalism is like a Parasite. It kills the Host and then moves on to infect and kill another Host.

We now live in Adams County, MS which is full of Democrats, especially Black Democrats. Hillary Won the County by over ten points I believe. Nobody runs as a Republican here, you either run as a Rat or Independent.

If we stay in MS we will be moving to the Coast which is more Conservative from what I’ve been told.

[minnesota_bound]

I say the word “South” should be banned.....

[Jacquerie]

The largest appropriation of an impoverished Mississippi in 1866 was for prosthetic limbs.

FU

[Yosemitest]

I just spoke to my State Representative of Mississippi and he agrees that there should be a state-wide vote on the Flag before any change.
He's voting against changing the flag and said that he would be for putting it to a state-wide vote first.

[tennmountainman]

Absolutely. Let the residents of MS decide, just as they did in 2001.

[Yosemitest]

I recommend everyone take the time to call their State Representative and tell them what they want.
Here's a link to track down the contact numbers or e-mail addresses.

[tennmountainman]

I grew up in MS but live in East TN now.
But certainly would if I still lived there.