Posted on 06/23/2020 3:11:15 PM PDT by Jewbacca
If Chauvin gets off, Simi Valley will seem like a day at the beach by comparison. I think he should be exonerated, although his history of other nasty incidents could be an issue.
I can’t believe a cop would spend 9 minutes doing something he knows is illegal, knowing that everyone on God’s green earth has a camera. NOBODY is that stupid or arrogant. It only makes sense that this is a technique permitted in policy.
As the falling man passes, the clerk, in a futile act of charity, holds out his hand to the plummeting screamer. So rapid is the doomed man's decent, that as he grasps at the proffered hand, all he ends up with is the clerk's pencil.
When the errant base jumper reaches the ground, the pencil in his hand is beneath him and is jammed into his heart.
The medical examiner determines that although the jumper on impact had burst his skull, thoracic cavity, and all internal organs, the pencil that perforated his heart contributed to his death.
The clerk is charged with murder...
Let’s say that Officer Chauvin took his knee off of Floyd‘s neck the instant Floyd stopped talking. Based on what you know, do you think Floyd would have survived?”
Nope.
George was suffering from excited delirium syndrome (ExDS) as a result of an overdose of BOTH meth and fentanyl. ExDS is very often fatal all by itself, let alone with a serious heart condition and COVID like George had.
Chauvin was exerting 90 lbs in the double-knee position, for 45 lbs exerted spread across the back and the neck (implying balanced force). 45 lbs is definitively insufficient to restrict breathing or blood-flow in the neck.
The lack of petechia (red dots in the eyes that happen with asphyxiation) support that death was not from asphyxiation.
In short, the entire thing is B.S.
The whole episode needs REAL investigation.
WHY did the cop just kneel, hand in his pocket, for nearly 9 minutes - allowing every bystander to get some really good video?
-This was MEANT to been seen.
WHY did the so-called EMT/ambulance crew show up and not bother to even CHECK the victim before grabbing the carcass and loading it up to take it away?
-They somehow had knowledge -BEFORE they arrived, that the guy was dead... and they accepted the word of whoever told them that.
Come on... WHY are NONE of our elected officials asking these questions??
The whole thing is NOT what everyone is saying.
I could get used to it very easily.
Funny, search didn’t pick it up.
Looked of “Chauvin” in titles.
Same thing will happen to that officer in Atlanta who shot the fellow who was firing a Taser at him. He is overcharged to the max so that the death penalty will be a bargaining point to get him to confess to something “lesser” like Voluntary Manslaughter. If the guy has a lawyer less venal than General Flynn’s lawyers he will get off clear and could possibly even get his job back.
“Funny, search didn’t pick it up.
Looked of “Chauvin” in titles.”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/search?m=all;o=time;q=quick;s=chauvin
Don’t know. I do know I’m not the first that that has happened to.
Regardless, this needs to be talked about more.
Excellent article.
The jurors will have people telling them that if they do not convict, then there will be violence, and they don’t want that on their conscience, do they?
They will also be told there is no way to protect their identities and the identities of their family members from the mob. No way to protect them.
Then they will be told to follow their conscience.
WTH??? I will have to go back and read the article again, because I did not note a single point that reasonably supports that statement.
Jewbacca:
All it takes is one brave member of the jury.
Times are changing. Brave in the sense that juror will be looking over his/her shoulder for a substantial portion of the rest of their life. Alternatively, that juror will get ratted out to the street even before the jury delivers its finding.
Rewrite that to where the clerk tripped the man causing him to fall off the roof and that would be a better analogy.
It wasn't Floyds heart issues that killed him. It wasn't the drugs that killed him. It was the heart issues plus the drugs plus the officer kneeling on his neck that killed him. Any one of the first two could well have killed him sooner rather than later. But it's not likely they would have killed him at that moment if the officer had not been kneeling on his neck. That's why he was charged.
While I agree that murder is a likely overcharge, this article IMHO is BS. The County ME releasing a toxicology report in 24 hours alleging Floyd was high on fentyl is suspect. Forensic toxicology reports take days if not weeks to process. The videos make it rather clear Floyds airway was being obstructed...I have 20 years of experience in prehospital emergency care so that seemed obvious to me. If these chockhold techniques were Minneapolis PD policy that is an indication that better policies are needed. Sorry this sadistic asshole cop deserves prison time for his actions.
No it doesn't. Unless his windpipe is located on the side of his neck, which it ain't.
The cause of death is not important as why the officer kept his knee on the man’s neck long after he was unable to be a danger to anyone.
Chauvin and Floyd knew each other from working at the same bar at the same time; https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/they-were-working-together-bar-owner-says-george-floyd-and-derek-chauvin-worked-for-her-as-security-guards
When someone can talk they can breathe.
When someone continuously talks their blood flow is not stopped because they are still conscious.
The cop cams are suppressed because they will likely show what this article has brought out about the ExDS. Chauvin and the other officers were trying to SAVE Floyd by bringing him out of the car where he was distressed.
Looking at the video available to everyone you can plainly see that Chauvin’s knee was not over the throat area and was just used to restrain, not damage, Floyd.
Floyd was a big man. A head taller than any of the officers as can easily be seen by the other released videos where he was taken from the car, cuffed and sat down by the adjacent building. Peaceful conversation was going between an officer and Floyd while he sat there.
Yes, I do think false flag that went too far because of the underlying (perhaps unknown) massive drug load that Floyd had on. The heart disease and other problems were the probable actual cause of death exacerbated by the ExDS episode.
It may be that the case has been intentionally over-charged and hyped in the media to get the riotous result just before the election to try to damage President Trump.
And they MUST have a conviction, so the city will not burn!
To commit murder (or manslaughter) the accused must be the proximate cause of the victim’s death.
If the officer’s knee hold did not proximately cause death, he is not guilty of manslaughter or murder.
So, no, you are completely wrong.
Maybe I’m wrong but I still believe when the cop kept his knee on an unresponsive man’s neck until he died, he is guilty of 2st degree murder which is not planned but when a situation arises and you use force to intentionally kill someone.
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