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1 posted on 06/23/2020 12:59:57 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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Comrade Nesom’s wonderful sanctuary state....taking care of every criminal scumbag mental case ahead of its law-abiding citizens....read it and weep.


2 posted on 06/23/2020 1:03:40 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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That’s pretty interesting.

Lots of police stories we hear are officers going out on some kind of domestic issue... usually with drugs or alcohol involved

It’s seems to be as much a criminal as a social problem. Why not send out a ‘social worker’ along with the police on those calls?


3 posted on 06/23/2020 1:05:37 PM PDT by SMARTY ("Nobility is defined by the demands it makes on us - by obligations, not by rights".)
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The Law of (painfully obvious) Unintended Consequences


4 posted on 06/23/2020 1:07:33 PM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt
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Vallejo turned into a dangerous ghetto over the years. And the Mexican gangs started spreading into the rest of the Bay Area.


5 posted on 06/23/2020 1:08:56 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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It’s not just about having fewer officers and spending less money. It’s about looking at the things we use cops for and asking if they’re the right training for the job. And shunting money around accordingly. If you just cut your police force in half but keep all the duties the same the stress level goes up, and no good comes from that.


6 posted on 06/23/2020 1:09:51 PM PDT by discostu (I know that's a bummer baby, but it's got precious little to do with me)
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Nearly a third of the city's homicides that year were committed by law enforcement.

As they interpret it at any rate.

7 posted on 06/23/2020 1:11:51 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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Imagine a social worker being called out for a man with a drug problem. It turns out he is having Meth psychosis and is swinging an axe at anyone and everyone he can see. Or perhaps “only” a domestic disturbance which turns out to be the husband/father holding his child with a knife to its throat. Or even a simple traffic accident where one driver had road rage and shot the other driver, causing him to crash. These events have all happened.


8 posted on 06/23/2020 1:13:03 PM PDT by Pirate Ragnar
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It seems more bad guys die when you cut the police force.

That could permanently clean up a lot of bad, if instituted everywhere.

This must be what Black Lives Matter sees, too.


9 posted on 06/23/2020 1:14:23 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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Vallejo is a tough city. Yes, there are some tougher ones but frankly you don’t go walking in much of Vallejo at night and the cops seem to know it


10 posted on 06/23/2020 1:15:05 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (Politicians are not born, theyÂ’re excreted. Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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How about more shootings and more fatal ones as a consequence of citizens justifiably protecting themselves, their families, and their properties against criminal aggressors?


11 posted on 06/23/2020 1:15:45 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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or at least you don’t go out at night without protection


12 posted on 06/23/2020 1:16:12 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (Politicians are not born, theyÂ’re excreted. Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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But they hardly defunded it. They reduced it, putting the remaining force at even greater risk. Thus creating a kill or be killed scenario. It’s surprising they only used deadly force 6 times in reality.


13 posted on 06/23/2020 1:17:36 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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Do they have data on the rate of citizen armed self-defense surrounding that time period?


14 posted on 06/23/2020 1:18:01 PM PDT by G Larry (The People must shutdown the tyrants.)
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How do you say “Tough shit” in Californese?


15 posted on 06/23/2020 1:18:27 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper (??)
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Arm up citizens of the republic. Justice meted out against the perp at the point of his their intentions is the best justice.

Everybody (criminal) has a plan until they get punched in the face. - Mike Tyson

Civilization

The precondition of a civilized society is the barring of physical force from social relationships—thus establishing the principle that if men wish to deal with one another, they may do so only by means of reason: by discussion, persuasion and voluntary, uncoerced agreement.

The necessary consequence of man’s right to life is his right to self-defense. In a civilized society, force may be used only in retaliation and only against those who initiate its use.

Ayn Rand


18 posted on 06/23/2020 1:19:54 PM PDT by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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Oh yes. the standard “more money for social services”


22 posted on 06/23/2020 1:29:27 PM PDT by PGR88
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I don’y have any police in my neighborhood and we don’t have crime. Must be something different between my area and Vallejo.


27 posted on 06/23/2020 1:57:22 PM PDT by umgud
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Leftist don’t hate Police. They just hate police they can’t control and use to attack their political enemies.


30 posted on 06/23/2020 2:13:45 PM PDT by HP8753 (Live Free!!!! .............or don't.)
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a decimated police department from 150 would still have 135 officers.

80 remaining is a reduction of 46.66 % not 10.

31 posted on 06/23/2020 2:23:50 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Make American Intelligence Great Again.)
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bookmark


32 posted on 06/23/2020 2:53:51 PM PDT by DFG
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