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Rayshard Brooks killing: Former Atlanta Officer Garrett Rolfe charged with murder, could face death penalty
Fox News ^ | June 17, 2020 | Michael Ruiz

Posted on 06/17/2020 1:06:11 PM PDT by buckalfa

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To: Bryan24

Another political show trial, just like the Arbery thing.


201 posted on 06/17/2020 3:16:25 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: buckalfa

This is probably a calculated charge to give the mayor of Atlanta some breathing room - right now she can’t breathe - and save her job.


202 posted on 06/17/2020 3:20:24 PM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: jntrees

“Running toward someone else with a knife or lethal weapon and his back is facing you?? How’s that?”

Precisely, sir knight. It makes no sense.

We’re analyzing your statement, which is: “Shooting someone in the back is unjustified, unless they were charging at someone with the intent to maim/kill.”

The imagery is of a man charging someone with his back turned to the man he’s attacking. And you state that shooting this man in the back is unjustified. I’m trying to imagine such a situation.

If you admit to sniffing the whisky cork, your statement is understandable.


203 posted on 06/17/2020 3:20:24 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Teach a man to fish and he'll steal your gear and sell it)
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To: manc

Thanks. Jntrees is some kind of troll who occasionally pops up to spout useless nonsense. Unfortunately my last post was redacted. Anyone with half a brain can see this was a justified shoot. I guess that is asking to much of him.


204 posted on 06/17/2020 3:24:31 PM PDT by ohioman
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To: Its All Over Except ...

I think he can get an acquittal. Everybody knows, you don’t friggin shoot cops. Even if it was a taser, how does the officer in that frame of mind know to a certainty that he didn’t turn and point a real firearm? Sure, the taser was stolen but that doesn’t mean he couldn’t have another weapon.

He physically assaulted the police, stole a weapon, ran, turned and fired. Any reasonable person with a firearm would probably shoot back, badge or no badge. And, even a taser is still potentially fatal to the officer or to bystanders. Almost 200 people have been killed by tasers.

It’s very sad that this man was killed. Deaths like these are tragic. But the facts are, he appeared to be drunk, and he fired a weapon at a cop. I think even the good people of Atlanta can understand this. I wish he didn’t die. I wish he just took the drunk driving charge, went to some AA meetings and got on with his life. But I hope it doesn’t come to a politically motivated prosecution.


205 posted on 06/17/2020 3:24:40 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: ohioman

Never seen the poster before , but you were correct 100%


206 posted on 06/17/2020 3:26:07 PM PDT by manc ( If they want so called marriage equality then they should support polygamy too.)
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To: buckalfa

I know what to think. All was okay until the perp resisted arrest and went and grabbed the stun gun and tried to use it on the cops. This was NOT a murder. Those cops had no way of knowing this guy would get all crazy.


207 posted on 06/17/2020 3:27:22 PM PDT by dforest
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To: ohioman

“Jntrees is some kind of troll who occasionally pops up to spout useless nonsense.”

I noticed that and commented.


208 posted on 06/17/2020 3:34:51 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Teach a man to fish and he'll steal your gear and sell it)
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To: Oldexpat

I assumed anybody who fired any type weapon at a cop would be fired upon immediately.
Silly me.


209 posted on 06/17/2020 3:55:10 PM PDT by DeplorableGirl
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To: manc

Atlanta fired police officers in the last week or so because they used lethal force (tasers) against kids in a car.

So, Atlanta already set precedent that use of tasers is lethal force. So when this perp stole the police officer’s taser and fired that taser at the police officer, he was using my lethal force against the officer. Lethal force can be returned at that point.


210 posted on 06/17/2020 3:56:29 PM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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To: sergeantdave

“Running toward someone else with a knife or lethal weapon and his back is facing you?? How’s that?”

Precisely, sir knight. It makes no sense.

We’re analyzing your statement, which is: “Shooting someone in the back is unjustified, unless they were charging at someone with the intent to maim/kill.”

The imagery is of a man charging someone with his back turned to the man he’s attacking. And you state that shooting this man in the back is unjustified. I’m trying to imagine such a situation.

If you admit to sniffing the whisky cork, your statement is understandable

I can try to put it into terms that you can understand, I’ll have to think like a 6 year old I suppose.

Suppose someone is running away from you. You will see his back side—you following so far?
That same person has a machete and is running toward someone else (his back is still all that you see), you still with me? Remember, he is moving away from you (you, who is armed with a gun) and towards someone else. You fear that he is going to chop that person up, so you dump some rounds into his back ( remember, he is moving away from you still), now do you understand.
I can try crayons if you think it would help...


211 posted on 06/17/2020 4:01:04 PM PDT by jntrees
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To: ican'tbelieveit

which will be the argument for the defendant , and yes you made a good point thank you.


212 posted on 06/17/2020 4:01:09 PM PDT by manc ( If they want so called marriage equality then they should support polygamy too.)
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To: ican'tbelieveit
Atlanta fired police officers in the last week or so because they used lethal force (tasers) against kids in a car.

They were fired for and charged with aggravated assault, pointing or aiming a gun, simple battery and criminal damage to property. Not for using lethal force. Since a Taser is not classified as a lethal weapon in Georgia it's hard to see how they could have been charged with that.

213 posted on 06/17/2020 4:06:38 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: wbarmy
Your link documents that Brooks was in the custody of Atlanta police in January, 2020 for a probation violation. It doesn't tell us what happened between that date and the night of his death. There is no mention of a basis for any arrest warrant that the officers in the instant matter may have known about.

If Brooks did miss a meeting with his probation officer, there may well have been a warrant out but the facts known to the public suggests a warrant wasn't in play insofar as the officers were concerned. Brooks, of course, had good reason to worry about being arrested.

214 posted on 06/17/2020 4:09:20 PM PDT by frog in a pot (Most LEO's will advise, "Continue resisting arrest at your peril".)
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To: jntrees

So, we agree, finally.

Once again, here’s your statement: ““Shooting someone in the back is unjustified, unless they were charging at someone with the intent to maim/kill.”

The black thug charged the cop, so the other cop was completely justified in shooting the attacker in the back.


215 posted on 06/17/2020 4:32:51 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Teach a man to fish and he'll steal your gear and sell it)
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To: Blue Highway
The guy being charges with murder is he the initial office that arrived on the scene with the perp sleeping in his car still in the drive thru lane, or was it the officer that arrived later that was performed the DUI field sobriety test?

Based on a single quick view of the video, Officer 2 was the shooter.

Also which of those two officers had his taser stolen, and was it the officer with the taser stolen that shot the perp?

It appears Officer 1 relinquished his taser. It appears from reports that the first officer on the scene was a veteran of approximately 1 year (rookie?) and he called the second officer for the DUI examination.

We probably both ought to go back and study the several videos that are available. {;^)

216 posted on 06/17/2020 4:45:55 PM PDT by frog in a pot (Most LEO's will advise, "Continue resisting arrest at your peril".)
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To: sergeantdave

Once again, here’s your statement: ““Shooting someone in the back is unjustified, unless they were charging at someone with the intent to maim/kill.”

The black thug charged the cop, so the other cop was completely justified in shooting the attacker in the back.

“The black thug...” I knew you had it in you.
I don’t know what reality you are currently living in but to say the “black thug charged the cop..” in totally and completely INSANE man. You try to make your point with outright LIES! He didn’t charge the cop, he was running AWAY from the cops.
What are you smoking tonight??


217 posted on 06/17/2020 4:46:48 PM PDT by jntrees
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To: DoodleDawg

Listen and weep:

https://twitter.com/TMurph94/status/1273367151773134851


218 posted on 06/17/2020 5:09:38 PM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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To: Blue Highway

Don’t know—misposting?


219 posted on 06/17/2020 5:11:54 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: Blue Highway

Not that I know of.


220 posted on 06/17/2020 5:14:16 PM PDT by Hulka
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