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so it begins..M.P.D. lawyer "when the public see's the ENTIRE body cam footage", be a different story.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1270169460637347840 ^ | 6/9/20 | Basalt

Posted on 06/08/2020 11:22:15 PM PDT by basalt

https://twitter.com/i/status/1270169460637347840

just as i suspected...Floyd was kicking and struggling to be put in the cop car.


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To: qaz123
True, once the cuffs on are your job is done. For me, the fentanly answers a lot of my questions. Fentanly degrades your ability to breathe. People overdosing on Fentanly suffocate. Was George thrashing about on a Fentanly high? Was George in danger of injuring himself? That would explain why the officer decided to restrain George. My speculation, as we will never know! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Dzieka%C5%84ski_Taser_incident The wiki tracks closely to my memory. Passenger got unruly. Taser deployed to get him under control. Nobody knew he had a bad heart. Poor guy with a bad temper died. We do not have a process that eliminates all risks for all people. During customs processing, Dziekański began showing frustration and agitation towards airport staff. When members of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) encountered him in the International Reception Lounge at the airport, they pinned, handcuffed and used a Taser electroshock weapon on Dziekański multiple times—with accounts suggesting the weapon was used four or five times. Dziekański died at the scene from a heart attack induced by the electrical shocks.
121 posted on 06/09/2020 10:01:09 AM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: redshawk

[[If the cops are found not guilty or, get any sentence other than the death penalty, the blacks and antifa will burn the country to the ground. ....]]

I believe you are right- they are just waiting for an excuse to unleash- harder than they already have-

But don’t forget- tensions were this high for brown case, and zimmerman case- Black panthers i n that case were in florida threatening white folks- Yet after the not guilty ruling, the city didn’t erupt into mass violence-

We’ll see what happens- I thin you are right, but I did expect i n those 2 cases the same would happen, and it didn’t- for the most part- after the verdicts-


122 posted on 06/09/2020 10:07:11 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Mom MD

Security footage shows Floyd discarding drugs.

He was selling poison.


123 posted on 06/09/2020 10:10:37 AM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: lewislynn

[[That video of a cop with his knee on a neck is probably the first and only one most have ever seen. Yet it’s a normal way to detain an unruly person and is universally used everyday in this country.]]

Exactly, and it has been used successfully many many times without injury- or death- there is one supposed case of death by knee- but i think even in that case there were extenuating circumstances too- but don’t recall-


124 posted on 06/09/2020 10:11:44 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: wardaddy

“Many of whom lived to demonize my southern ancestry”

We’re stupid, don’t have any teeth and marry our cousins.


125 posted on 06/09/2020 10:13:44 AM PDT by dljordan
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To: Mom MD

Security footage shows Floyd discarding drugs.

He was selling poison.

I have no sympathy for drug dealers—they death penalty needs to be applied to them.


126 posted on 06/09/2020 10:14:41 AM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: kaehurowing

I have no sympathy either but we cannot have police administering the death penalty in the street without benefit of a jury trial. Floyd was a thug. the cop was still wrong


127 posted on 06/09/2020 10:20:00 AM PDT by Mom MD
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To: Mom MD

[[if someone goes limp and incontinent you do not wait 5 minutes to check on their condition.]]

They didn’t wait 5 minutes- it was 2 minutes until the abmbluance arrived- which very likely could be heard in the background approaching-

did the policeman make a dumb decision to wait for them? Yes- Did he intentionally murder a black man because of racism? No- i do not believe that especially given the fact that he knew full well he was being videotaped and witnessed both by bystanders and body cameras— Negligent homicide? Possibly- Depraved indifference to human life? I Don’t think so- Drug addicts and drunks often lose control of their bowels in stressful situations- Heart attack victims will do so too-

The cocnernign part was when he was told the officer ‘couldn’t find a pulse’- But again- it’s very possible they heard the ambulance approaching with sirens blaring- and wanted to wait for the professionals to deal with the condition- but i personally think they shoulda at least tried to do CPR- I think it was a bad mistake in judgement- but even if they had started CPR and George couldnt’ be revived, it wouldn’t have mattered to the liberal community- the riots still would have done what they are doing- they were looking for an excuse- this was their ticket- in their minds this cop murdered a black man, and nothing- not facts or anything will change that narrative- The left wanted an excuse ot burn loot, assault, and m urder-


128 posted on 06/09/2020 10:22:12 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Aria

“ I didn’t know until now that he became incontinent - seems to me the cops should have realized what that meant.”

Pretty clear from the video. Floyd was so close to the car they probably didn’t see it.


129 posted on 06/09/2020 10:23:42 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: Mr. Blond; wardaddy

Technically, there’s only one race - Human.

However, there are various ethnicities within that race, and that ethnic division is what most people colloquially call “race”.

/pedant, not pedo.


130 posted on 06/09/2020 10:26:17 AM PDT by ro_dreaming (Chesterton, 'Christianity has not been tried and found wanting. It's been found hard and not tried')
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To: Dave W

I cop could hold a knee to your neck for an hour and you’d still be walking.


131 posted on 06/09/2020 10:29:00 AM PDT by aspasia
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To: snarkytart

Can you really blame them? This is the result of over 50 years of leftist controlled media, education and entertainment systems. The constant drumbeat these people have heard all of their lives is that they are victims of evil white people.

If BLM truly cared about black lives, they would be going to the worst neighborhoods, teaching people how to read and write. How to manage a household, how to be chaste and reverent. To reject drugs and the thug life. To respect all life even the unborn.

But they do nothing but make the lives of the meek in these neighborhoods even worse.


132 posted on 06/09/2020 10:32:26 AM PDT by yuleeyahoo (The nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master and deserves one. Hamilton)
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To: Erik Latranyi

“ I dared any FReeper to show me the racism in the George Floyd death.”

So far there is none. You can bet the prosecution is digging hard to find some though.


133 posted on 06/09/2020 10:34:15 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: wardaddy

Yep. Just young enough to watch but not much else.


134 posted on 06/09/2020 10:34:49 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: wardaddy

Your anger is not good for your blood pressure. We need all warriors healthy


135 posted on 06/09/2020 10:40:56 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Erik Latranyi; Mom MD

Here’s a story from Houston (2006) where a perp (illegal alien, naturally) was handcuffed and in the back seat of the patrol car - and still managed to shoot the 12 year veteran cop, and before that worked as a jailer, and was a US Army veteran, (Rodney Johnson) and kill him.

somehow he missed a 9mm taped to the suspects back....was grazed by a bullet in the head then turned around and was struck 3 times in the face......

https://forum.officer.com/forum/officers-and-law-enforcement-professionals-only/the-squad-room/55194-houston-officer-killed-by-handcuffed-suspect-in-backseat


136 posted on 06/09/2020 10:50:38 AM PDT by ro_dreaming (Chesterton, 'Christianity has not been tried and found wanting. It's been found hard and not tried')
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To: Pearls Before Swine

“ I have little doubt that the full footage will show the police had adequate reason to restrain Big George. But 9 minutes of kneeing on his neck, 3 of them after he stops moving and has no pulse, is going to be a tough sell.”

I can’t see how he gets off completely. There’s just too many mitigating issues for that ‘beyond a reasonable doubt’ threshold. My bet is man 2, with a little added to time served.


137 posted on 06/09/2020 10:55:29 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: DoodleDawg

they didnt kill him...


138 posted on 06/09/2020 10:55:53 AM PDT by basalt (w.h.)
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To: Mom MD

the ol killer knee...no hands needed....smh


139 posted on 06/09/2020 10:57:24 AM PDT by basalt (w.h.)
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To: basalt

can anyone recall any case ever where just the knee was used to commit 2nd degree murder...any murder....google, try and find one....


140 posted on 06/09/2020 10:59:39 AM PDT by basalt (w.h.)
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