Posted on 06/08/2020 9:48:26 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
PolitiFact keeps doing fact checks against conservatives that acknowledge that theyre using facts, but theyre still False because well, they dont like the way those facts are assembled. These factual facts arent making the right point. Theyre too narrow. They "omit context."
Black conservative radio host Larry Elder was flagged by PolitiFacts liberal readers for a June 2 appearance on Hannity where he declared "Last year, there were nine unarmed black people killed [by police]. Nineteen unarmed white people." He was citing the numbers of a liberal newspaper: The Washington Post!
PolitiFacts Bill McCarthy tagged this as Mostly False under the subheadline Larry Elder mislabels statistics on fatal shootings by police. Mislabels?
We found that Elder was speaking broadly about police killings but pulling his numbers from the Washington Posts more narrow tally of fatal shootings by police officers in the line of duty.
The Washington Posts tally doesnt account for off-duty police or the use by on-duty officers of other force that can be lethal, such as tasers or physical restraint.
That means the number of unarmed people killed in encounters with law enforcement in 2019 is higher for both races than Elder claimed. How much higher is not clear.
What is clear, experts told us, is that despite what Elders absolute numbers may suggest, black people in the U.S. have died from fatal encounters with police at a disproportionate rate.
Blacks account for less than 13 percent of the U.S. population, but are killed by police at more than twice the rate of white Americans. Okay. But twice as many whites are killed by police than blacks, but the "Black Lives Matter"-echoing media coverage leaves the impression that the vast majority of killings are racially motivated.
Thats why Elders facts are upsetting to liberals. They like that false impression.
McCarthy noted that the Post updated its count since Elder appeared on Fox News, but that doesn't change the point. More whites than blacks are killed. He concluded:
Those numbers matched the Washington Posts tally of fatal shootings by police in the line of duty, although the Washington Posts figures have increased since Elder made his claim.
But not all police killings happen when officers are on duty, and not all involve a gunshot. The Washington Posts data doesnt include deaths like Floyds, for example.
Elders claim also omitted important context: that black people in the U.S. are disproportionately killed by police relative to their share of the population.
Overall, Elders statement contained elements of truth, but it left out important context that would give a different impression.
We rate it Mostly False.
You have to admire the elasticity of PolitiFact. Elder is false for talking about police shootings and leaving out police asphyxiations. They really should have a Truth-o-Meter box for Omitted Important Context. Or change their name to Politi-Context.
Larry Elder is NOT going to mess around with “maybe” being wrong.
Hitler had context. So did Timothy McVieh.
Emulating Goebbels well...
Would the fact checkers dare mention how many of those killed were shot during the commission of a dangerous felony while they themselves were armed?
Where is that article about being a cult?
They do not listen to facts or reason and any intervention is most likely to fail...
Where is that article about being a cult?
They do not listen to facts or reason and any intervention is most likely to fail...
I listen to Larry every day. Hes the MAN.
SCREW THE FACT CHUCKEES
Listen these leftist activist who call themselves fact checkers are more of the same bullshit liars we see and hear everyday in the media and social media.
Yes they are a cult they refuse to hear about reality. They think they’re so clever and “educated” but really are they dumbest people with zero critical thinking skills and can be taken by any false narrative.
See all the global warming fake ass models these same people buy into.
They are very much cult like.
I think another article explained, sorry no link, that because blacks commit crimes at a higher rate, they have more contact with police.
So rather than compare the number of killings to size of population, the comparison should be number of killings to encounters with police.
In that comparison, the number of blacks killed by police is disproportionately lower.
Sorry I cannot be more specific.
Larry is a good guy.
Hes not going to lie.
The Left doesnt know how to handle good people. They dont have any..
l8r
The Wapo number is for unarmed blacks who were SHOT and killed by police. If you want to see the “context” see the Noam tweets here: https://www.conservativereview.com/news/horowitz-no-systemic-racism-policing/
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