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Air Force to Test Fighter Drone Against Human Pilot
Air Force Magazine ^ | 4 June 2020 | Rachel Cohen

Posted on 06/05/2020 10:34:07 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!

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To: Alas Babylon!
The tighter flying, without having to worry about killing the pilot/crew with too many g's, will really expand the ability over drones of manned fliers.

Yes. The drone should not be constrained by the human limitations built into current airframes.

Take out all the life support and human G-limited support. Make the planes smaller because they do not need cockpits, ejection systems, oxygen.

Without those constraints and a failure level 100 times more acceptable (because no human lives at risk) The drones cost 1/10 as much, and we can afford ten times as many, for the same costs....

21 posted on 06/05/2020 11:12:24 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: JCL3

That’s why they installed explosive bolts.


22 posted on 06/05/2020 11:17:32 AM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: Alas Babylon!
Air Force to Test Fighter Drone Against Human Pilot

Drones will inevitably replace human pilots. Far cheaper and far more capable. The future of warfare is going to be robots.

23 posted on 06/05/2020 11:18:39 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Alas Babylon!

Gen. Buck Turgidson would not approve


24 posted on 06/05/2020 11:22:09 AM PDT by llevrok (Honor George Forman)
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To: fightin kentuckian
Without the human, the aircraft can pull much higher Gs, fly faster, and higher.

Not only will they be better at flying, they will be a tremendous cost savings. No need to train a new batch of pilots every few years or continue flying to keep skills up. Anything that a drone or human learns can be uploaded to all aircraft. We can build ten thousand drones and keep them in hangers at low cost, all recieving skill updates from a few drones practicing in reality or virtually.

25 posted on 06/05/2020 11:22:10 AM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Alas Babylon!

Our pilots will be fewer in number and fly in the company of dozens of machines.

Objectives will be determined by humans.

The rest of it will be handled by the machines.

The F-35 was designed as one of the control pods. And only one will be needed per squadron of $10mil drones.

The F-35 is the last manned fighter the US will produce for a very long time.


26 posted on 06/05/2020 11:23:21 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Salvavida

These drones are not dependent on satellites for their operations.

They are controlled via a variant of Link-16, and MADL.

https://www.aviationtoday.com/2018/09/04/f-35-data-fusion/


27 posted on 06/05/2020 11:37:29 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Cylons vs. the 12 Colonies didn’t work out so well. Just sayin’.


28 posted on 06/05/2020 11:40:48 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Politics is the continuation of war by other means. --Clausewitz)
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To: miliantnutcase

In fact, several Dale Brown novels posited this back in the 80’s and 90’s.


29 posted on 06/05/2020 11:42:14 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Politics is the continuation of war by other means. --Clausewitz)
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To: Alas Babylon!
would first insert machine-learning technology into a less-advanced plane, like an F-16, before trying it in a newer jet, like an F-35 or F-22.

Fitting a conventional fighter with AI is hardly a big advance. Build a plane that no human could fly and maneuver then you would have something.

30 posted on 06/05/2020 11:46:50 AM PDT by itsahoot (Welcome to the New USA where Islam is a religion of peace and Christianity is a mental disorder.)
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To: Alas Babylon!

The tide has turned. It used to be they used drones for target practice, now humans will be used for drones to practice upon.


31 posted on 06/05/2020 11:47:48 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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I have seen a crappy movie about this...it does not end well.

Clint Eastwood did a movie "Firefox" where he stole a smart plan from Russia, one you controlled with your mind. He had to learn Russian to control it, in the movie, not for real.

32 posted on 06/05/2020 11:50:46 AM PDT by itsahoot (Welcome to the New USA where Islam is a religion of peace and Christianity is a mental disorder.)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Skynet.


33 posted on 06/05/2020 11:52:51 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Tyrants don't just give you your freedoms back. You have to take them.)
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To: Wilderness Conservative

As quickly as Diane Finestein can get it to her “driver”.


34 posted on 06/05/2020 11:53:46 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Tyrants don't just give you your freedoms back. You have to take them.)
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To: Alas Babylon!

DO you want Skynet. Because this is how you get Skynet.

:)


35 posted on 06/05/2020 12:02:08 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Alas Babylon!

““There is no level four, fully autonomous vehicle out on the roads today,” he said, despite several companies investing billions of dollars in the idea. “On the other hand, that’s a decade worth of experience we should be pulling into the military because they’ve learned so much.””

Cars are not a good example. Flying autonomously is far, far, easier than driving autonomously. Fedex planes fly themselves. They still have pilots in them. But unless the pilot is bored and wants to land it himself, they take off, fly and land autonomously.

If we (or the Chinese) put effort into fighter drones, they will be very, very successful and push manned fighters out of the sky.


36 posted on 06/05/2020 12:02:20 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: Alas Babylon!
“The [F-35] competitor should be a drone fighter plane that’s remote controlled by a human, but with its maneuvers augmented by autonomy,” Musk tweeted. “The F-35 would have no chance against it.”

Sounds good. Until the radio link is jammed. Or it gets out of range. Remotely controlled high speed maneuvers in real time will need instantaneous comms at all times so SATCOM doesn't sound like an option as a data link.

37 posted on 06/05/2020 12:04:58 PM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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I trust the pilot’s callsign is Starbuck.


38 posted on 06/05/2020 12:05:34 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Fact: Gun control laws kill innocents.)
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To: itsahoot

I remember ‘Firefox’ ... in the movie Eastwood’s character already spoke Russian but had to train himself to ‘think in Russian’ so the mind-linked weapons control software could understand him.

Not a bad movie actually ...


39 posted on 06/05/2020 12:16:03 PM PDT by ByteMercenary (Healthcare Insurance is *NOT* a Constitutional right.)
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To: itsahoot

Wasn’t the character Eastwood played a Russian-American so he already was a native speaker? I think the Russian plane could only interpret Russian mental commands.


40 posted on 06/05/2020 12:48:17 PM PDT by Reily
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