Posted on 06/01/2020 4:19:54 PM PDT by NautiNurse
MINNEAPOLIS (FOX 9) – Fox 9 reports that the Hennepin County Medical Examiner’s report released Monday ruled the death of George Floyd a homicide.
The updated report states that on May 25, George Floyd experienced a cardiopulmonary arrest while being restrained by a law enforcement officer(s). Ex-Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin is now charged with third-degree murder and manslaughter in connection to Floyd’s death.
Earlier Monday, the attorneys for the family of George Floyd shared the findings of their separate autopsy, which determined that Floyd died of “asphyxia from sustained pressure” on his neck and back.
The new Medical Examiner’s report also notes other significant conditions such as arteriosclerotic and hypertensive heart disease; fentanyl intoxication; and recent methamphetamine use.
Last week, the Hennepin County Medical Examiner’s Office released a preliminary report in which it was determined that Floyd likely died from a combination of underlying health conditions, being restrained by police, and any potential intoxicants in his system.
There was reportedly no physical evidence that he died of asphyxia of strangulation.
Jo—the video clip was not “selective”.
There was a full, unedited, uncut, no-monkey-business 9-minutes-straight video, taken while the victim was on the ground handcuffed.
The now-ex-policeman facing murder 3 and manslaughter, had his knee on the victim’s neck the ENTIRE time.
One of his fellow policemen, ON THAT VIDEO, takes the guys pulse and finds the victim’s heart isn’t beating.
Mr. Kneecap does not start CPR.
He does not even check the pulse for himself.
He stays there with his knee on the victim’s neck for over 2 more minutes.
There are severe civil rights implications to this, because once you are handcuffed, you are “in custody”. People forget that means, the police now have an affirmative duty of care towards you.
Mr. Kneecap is a trained first responder. He doesn’t even go through the motions of lifesaving measures.
he’s toast.
For the “if he didn’t resist” bullcrap?
An unconscious man (he passed out before the pulse was taken IIRC), lying down and handcuffed, is not an imminent threat to life or limb.
Potentially deadly force is not allowed at that point.
As far as the arrest, he had been accused of passing a single counterfeit $20. The police are on video trying to pull him out of his car. If he’s in his car, he’s not exactly rampaging around with a bazooka. They could’ve just put chocks on the wheels so it couldn’t move, and waited for him to get out to go to the bathroom. Or arrested him peacefully at home a couple of days later.
passing judgment based on 8 minutes.m
You have no idea what happen nor do I .
Go work as a cop on the streets full of druggies and cons .
I do not pass judgment when I do not have the facts .
I am not a sucker who falls for videos by strangers with agendas .
Wise up
Wow is that really the case? Does the union forbid drug testing of officers? Sorry but I am unclear on when and if officers get drug tested.
The updated gutless appeasement report . . .
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No kidding. The whole body politic in MN is corrupted. They give a fraction of the truth to placate the masses. Use a ton of words to say nothing and have a tall black man, who thinks he is a girl, sing Amazing Grace. That was the BEST little mayor jacob fry could come up with. pathetic
I am copying nautinurse:
“Not FOR using drugs. He died BECAUSE he was on drugs.
That is not what the medical examiner report states. Once again, you are being dishonest.”
In my words, I say hey shelter guy: shut up you dumb ass.
Another officers take. I believe we need a whole lot of more officers like this.
With thanks to HollyB for posting this to me.
This was posted on FB
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“ I feel like I do a very good job at keeping my personal opinions to myself. However with this, I cannot.
The George Floyd incident.
I want to apologize in advance to anyone that may be offended or disagree with what I am going to say. These statements are my own opinion and in no way reflect the opinions of any department(s) or other officers - just myself:
As an Officer, this deeply hurts my heart. I want those who read this to know that there are MANY officers shaking their heads in disappointment right now. We are people too and we know when something is wrong.
I’ve been blessed to work for a department that has religiously preached, “Once the cuffs are on, the fight is over.”
I’ve had several situations where a fight will continue after the cuffs have been placed on an arrestee but, that’s not what I mean by my previous statement.
What I meant by my statement is this:
Regardless of the crime, once a person is in handcuffs you have to treat them accordingly. There is zero need to continuously use force unless you ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO; to maintain the arrestee’s safety, surrounding citizen’s safety, other officer’s saftey, or your own safety. I do not feel or see an immediate threat here.
As Officers, we’ve all been taught that once we have someone in custody, that arrestee essentially becomes our “baby”. At that point, we are required to take care of that person until they are passed through a chain of custody (hospital, intake center, juvenile center). We are fully responsible for that person because we have essentially taken their freedoms of movement and decisions away. That person now falls on our hands. We MUST take care of that person.
If someone is saying, “I can’t breathe!” It’s the job of the officer to make sure that person CAN breathe. If someone says, “I need medical attention” or they complain of pain, it’s the job of the Officer to see that the arrestee receives the proper medical attention he/she is entitled to.
If you see that your subject is not awake or breathing, you better stop and immediately revert to your other job training skill of being a life saver instead of a law enforcer. If you can’t do that, you damn sure better call someone who can (EMS, Fire, or another trained officer).
Yes, I have had to use force on people while they’re in handcuffs. However, I have not drove my knee in to someone’s neck for the duration of 10 minutes. There’s thousands of ways to control someone. They’re just as effective but, not nearly as dangerous. The force used did not fit the severity of the crime that was claimed to have been committed.
If you’re okay with this use of force on someone who is handcuffed, I personally feel you need to take one of these courses of action:
1) Turn in your badge before you tarnish it for the rest of us.
That’s it, that’s the only course of action you should and need to take.
I read a comment earlier in a thread where a person stated, “Well what if he had a gun before this and that’s why they’re doing it?”
Well, the fact of that matter is that he DID NOT and the “what if” game is absolutely asinine in this situation. Even if he did, once in custody....we are going to revert back to a comment I made earlier....”the fight is over.”
I’ve arrested countless people who have used weapons in the commission of violent crimes. I’ve also arrested people who have pointed weapons directly at me.
After a person is in handcuffs, it DOES NOT matter what happened before the arrest. I’m sorry but, it just doesn’t. I’m sure plenty of officers will disagree with me and I’m sure some will even refuse to work with me over that statement. Events that happen before a subject is placed in to custody does not give anyone the right to batter, beat, or suffocate the arrestee once they are secured in handcuffs. Any different logic of thinking is absolutely WRONG in this line of work. Any Officer with integrity and morals will tell you that.
Thankfully, I’ve been blessed to work with Officers and for a department that teaches and thinks this way as well.
Does that mean I’m going to drop my guard with the arrestee? Absolutely not. I still have a job to do and that person is going to jail for a reason. Make no mistake, I know how to do my job and I know complacency will kill you in this line of work. Does that mean placing your full body-weight on someone’s neck for 10 minutes is appropriate? HELL NO.
There’s a thousand other ways that man could’ve been kept under control. All are less dangerous and just as, if not MORE, effective.
I know this is going to resurface debates on police & prejudice. Let me say to you all...
I am sincerely sorry.
I see this video and I empathize with you. I understand why you are so frustrated. I know I am not African American so, I would never try to act like I’ve been in your shoes before. That would be terribly disrespectful. But, please hear what I have to say...
I have personally never worked with a prejudice police officer. In fact, some of my favorite zone/beat partners are African American and they are FANTASTIC people/officers. I work with wonderful officers who are gay or bisexual. I work with wonderful officers of all races, religions, sexes and creeds - all of them are absolutely amazing. The color of your skin, the person you love, the God you worship does not define what kind of person you are. Most police officers realize this and do not use those factors as leverage to form an unfair or biased opinion on the individuals they are called to assist/help/arrest. We are taught to be fair and impartial at all times. That is extremely important to myself and all the officers I work with. Many officers realize that we are only people; we just wear a different uniform to work. We all wake up and put our pants on the same way (unless you do some funky ass way but, that’s a conversation for a different time, ya big weirdo). We all bleed red. We all die. We all get buried in a six foot hole. We are all human-beings.
Most officers are extremely humble; we realize that we are no better than the people we interact with on a day-to-day basis. After all, we work for a specific city and the citizens who live in that city. We can’t properly work for the citizens if we walk around believing that we are better than them. That’s not how this job works. We have to be open and willing to listen to all your problems, concerns, worries, and questions. With that said, I can also say I HEAR YOU, I SEE YOU, I CARE ABOUT YOU. I see and understand why you are all concerned. I’m here to help alleviate those concerns for you. We, as the police, are here to help you, not harm you. We genuinely care about you, all of you.”
Here are some big words you can look up to see what they mean, dumbass. Have an adult help you if necessary.
Especially look up fentanyl intoxication.
“””””The updated report states that on May 25, George Floyd experienced a cardiopulmonary arrest while being restrained by a law enforcement officer(s).
The new Medical Examiner’s report also notes other significant conditions such as arteriosclerotic and hypertensive heart disease; fentanyl intoxication; and recent methamphetamine use.”””””
The fb post above was posted a day or so after the events
Wow—you rant and lash out at this nurse who has spent more shifts than I can count caring for people without regard to whether they live in a mansion or on the street, whether their delirium is from intoxication or a brain tumor. You have no conscience. You have no shame. Your pinhead comments prove it sucks to be you.
I guess you missed the 6 ft 6 in drugged up on fent fighting like a wild man while trying to get him
into handcuffed and the car .
You saw a nicely edited video .
How many times cops get spun the same lines and get killed .
Floyd was not a 5 ft 2 in accountant type .
Feel free to jump to conclusions .
Cops have it so easy dealing with street druggies ,
There’s no jumping to conclusions here. It was 4 cops and one hancuffed prisoner. They were never in any danger here outside of a pulled muscle.
But I guess we watched a different video because I’m sure no conservative would be comfortable with a government agent assaulting a handcuffed and unconscious citizen for many minutes.
You can do CPR in the Wuhan virus era on strangers .
The cops and all others will pass.
You have no idea what happened .
The cops working these streets have it so easy .
The drugged out ex con was just a big teddy bear . Gee pawning off fake 20 is just a minor federal thing the
secret service will put you away for 20 plus years .’
Are you serious ?
That and having three cops kneeling on his neck and back.
Yes, Floyd was in bad health, probably (not official yet) on drugs that caused his death. Doesn’t matter. He was in their care. The cops did call an ambulance but they mistreated him in a fashion that someone in the medical crisis Floyd was in should not have been treated (probably no one should either).
Exactly. This one is not difficult. Take out the racial element and nobody would deflecting and spinning about “due process.”
“””””The updated report states that on May 25, George Floyd experienced a cardiopulmonary arrest while being restrained by a law enforcement officer(s).
The new Medical Examiner’s report also notes other significant conditions such as arteriosclerotic and hypertensive heart disease; fentanyl intoxication; and recent methamphetamine use.”””””
yeah, to me I don’t see racism. I see a corrupt cop who has a history of complaints against him. a minneapolis cop I might add
Probably hated his job and was looking forward to retiring soon. Most likely the verbal abuse from the bystanders pushed him over the edge. Assaulting his unconscious prisoner as he did on camera was totally irrational.
Did you bother to read the Statement of Probable Cause against the kneecap ex-policeman?
Perry Mason couldn’t save him.
Read the Probable Cause statement against the now ex-policeman. There is a single, uncut, unedited, 9-minute-or-so long video of the victim on the ground in handcuffs, with the now-ex-policeman’s knee on his neck the entire time. When he says he can’t breathe. When bystanders say a neck hold is dangerous. When he passes out. When they beg him to get off of the victim and check for a pulse. When a fellow policeman holding him down feels for a pulse and tells him there isn’t one. For two more minutes after that.
He didn’t move the knee. He didn’t perform CPR. He didn’t even double check for a pulse itself.
This is both a civil rights violation (once you’re in cuffs, the police become responsible for your safety). And not performing CPR as a first responder, on a guy in your care, when a policeman tells you he doesn’t have a pulse?
In Minnesota, they have a word for that. “Depraved indifference”. It’s in their definition of 3rd degree murder.
Your selective edits are deceptive and dishonest. Your credibility is nil.
Selective edits?
I gave you what the coroner said.
Did you look up the big words?
Do you know what fentanyl intoxication is?
Would he have experienced cardiopulmonary arrest had he not had three police officers kneeling on his back and neck?
More insults from the dishonest shelterguy. I’m gonna cry.
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