[ClearCase_guy]

Bad stuff happens. That has always been the case. No one gets out alive — everyone dies at some point.

Too many people have hoped for Security and thrown away their Freedom. We’ve trashed the economy and trashed the Constitution. This was not smart.

It is surely a shame when an 80-year-old man in a nursing home gets COVID-19 and dies. But I think it is a greater shame when a young family lose their jobs, their income, their house and their hopes and dreams because of the lockdown. That just seems like a much bigger deal to me. We do this to ourselves.

[Biggirl]

Yes.

[Freee-dame]

Has anyone heard of outbreaks with multiple deaths in retirement communities that are not nursing homes? It does not seem to be that deaths are occurring in places where people, no matter how old, are still moving around, even if on electric scooters. Every death is a loss but how many of the deaths in nursing homes are among people who were already bedridden, perhaps already close to death?

Ever since the initial request that we do various things to slow the spread, I have wanted to have data about many of the characteristics of people who are dying. I thought back then that we would need that information in order to make informed decisions about going out depending on our own situation. I never dreamed that we would be asked to stay in our homes for eight weeks already. We still need that information and wonder why we are not being allowed to know it.