nah...CBS..not reliable.
Unproven. Anecdotal. Every other adjective used to describe HCQ.
Could be good news, despite the hefty cost....but there’s a lot of similar results from folks getting the HCQ/Zinc/Z-Pak treatments...with the main HCQ ingredient being about 50 cents a dose vs. $1K a dose (on top of required hospitalization for treatment....).
I guess it’s true, there really is a balm in Gilead
We heard the same stories about HCQ. There was a guy from Florida who said he started feeling better within hours of taking HCQ. Woke up around 4am to find his fever completely gone. Laura Ingraham interviewed him. Expect to hear a flood of “miracle” stories about Remdesivir that will outdo anything you heard about HCQ.
More good news. I hope this and the use of the anti malaria drug cocktail keeps saving people’s lives.
It was reported 200,000. Doesn’t matter, mere flash in the pan to what they seek which is forced vaccination of all human beings on the planet. IOW a publicity stunt.
Are they hyping how sick he was just to ‘prove that remsivider is the only drug that works’?
Doesnt sound any more effective than hydroxychloquine and zinc. Avg of 3-4 days for it to do the same thing.
Donate 400,000 doses so they can sell 40,000,000. It’s called a free sample. They do it at Sam’s Club and Costco too. Well, probably not anymore but they did pre-coronavirus.
Are his kidneys and liver still working?
Here’s the link at the bottom of the press release you posted:
https://shineonlinehealth.com/remdesivir-covid-19
Here’s a statement from that link:
“But with a vaccine still months away and anti-virals like Remdesivir early in the research phase, the age-old method of treating the sickest patients with the antibodies of a recovered patient, or convalescent, is popular again.”
Now replace the phrase “months away” with “years away” and I would endorse such statement as accurate.
But there’s another component not mentioned in the previous cheek kiss:
“Some of these patients may end up having convalescent plasma as a last resort if they fail the drug trial,” Dr. Roush says.”
“Convalescent plasma therapy depends on the supply of antibody-rich plasma, the liquid part of blood. Early on, there weren’t nearly enough immune blood donors to meet the demand.”
So there are two experimental therapies going on at this center.
If one were to replace everywhere in this PR piece the terms ‘remdesivir’ and ‘convalescent plasma therapy’ with ‘hydroxychloroquine combination therapy’ AND there were no other reports on such HCQ therapy or sparse reports with similar scant information, I would summarize HCQ combination results are ANECDOTAL. I would be fair.
But HCQ combination therapy has now thousands upon thousands of success stories, with data summarized in tables and subjected to statistical test procedures. Such evidence is beyond anecdotal.
Whereas remdesivir continues to be slipped into these murky ‘promising’ softball pieces as a sort of ‘keep-it-alive’ campaign.
But what really stinks is the Fauci involvement as the link above writes:
“Remdesivir recently made headlines after a government trial released preliminary, but “highly significant,” results showing a “clear-cut” benefit to patients, according to Anthony Fauci, MD, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.”
There were no such results and “highly significant” does not mean “statistically significant”. There is an enormous difference and scientists know well the difference. Fauci failing to use “statistically significant” to describe a touted remdesivir study means there’s is nothing a medical journal will publish. In other words, it’s as good as garbage but the polite term would be ‘hopeful’, yeah hopeful to those holding Gilead stock options.
I’m sorry but I know the field well and have disciplined those that take their science hats off and put on their sales hats.
The remdesivir data summaries are nowhere to be found.
The fact that Dr. Parvez Mantry is quoted to say the following without data tables reveals he doesn’t have the goods:
“We have seen a remarkable degree of improvement in the majority of patients using Remdesivir,” Dr. Mantry said.
“We were able to treat a lot of them successfully, and fortunately a lot of them have been discharged home back to their families,” said Dr. Mantry.
Show the data results dammit! And stop acting like used car salesmen!
They don’t have it, they had to get an assist from CBS to spread the ‘story’.
A very appropriate question to ask Mantry is why are you excluding HCQ combination therapy given its success and instead focusing on remdesivir and convalescent plasma therapy?
To Mantry, I would challenge him, why are you doing these two thereapies and not a third therapy that has shown very high success rates in thousands of hospitalized patients many of whom were dying yet recovered?
Challenging scientists is par for the course.
You get them into a conference where everyone checks their egos at the door.
You give them a remote caster or slide projector and when everyone is seated, you listen to the scientist report and there better not be any bullsh*t.
Then comes Q & A and it is deadly serious.
I see none of that in the remdesivir sphere. That’s why I get pissed at these ‘stories’ as a waste of time and that’s shared by all serious researchers who have been in the field. You simply do not waste the time of serious researchers unless you are looking for feedback and design assist.
What I see are Gilead employees with stock options dance with their Wall St. maestros whenever a puff piece hits the financial press causing the stock to surge. There are ample financial press stories to demonstrate this. You should be able to find examples within a minute of internet search.
The problem for the Gilead boys and girls is the success of HCQ combination therapy has peed in their cornflakes. But not to fear, the fake news is trotted out to run a campaign of hit pieces against HCQ.
So it’s not about science. It’s about detestable politics with slimy characters like Fauci as headpiece to their scam routine. And why has Fauci sold out? He has patents and he’s kissing the a$$ of Billy Boy Gates.
Apologies for the colorful language but it’s what happens in real world science unless you have people like Fauci who fawn over liars like Hillary Clinton.
Fauci’s love afair with the Witch:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3842797/posts?page=52#52