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Coronavirus may have jumped to humans as early as October, study says
The South China Morning Post ^ | May 7, 2020 | by Liu Zhen

Posted on 05/07/2020 4:21:51 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

The Covid-19 pandemic might have started as early as October, according to the latest research into the genetic make-up of the coronavirus.

The pathogen, formally known as SARS-CoV-2, is thought to have made the jump from initial host to humans some time between October 6 and December 11 last year, according to an article released on Tuesday and set to be published in an upcoming edition of the scientific journal Infection, Genetics and Evolution.

The findings are based on analysis of more than 7,000 genome sequence assemblies collected from around the world since January. By examining the evolution of the mutations, researchers from University College London and the University of Reunion Island were able to rewind their molecular clocks to a common starting point.

They were also able to identify the major mutations to the coronavirus, which has continued to evolve since making the jump to humans.

Based on information from the first whole genome sequence of the coronavirus – published by a laboratory in Shanghai in January – and other genome analyses, scientists had earlier concluded that SARS-CoV-2 most likely came from a bat and made the jump to humans via an intermediate animal some time in November.

But by the time the latest study was conducted, late last month, the researchers had access to much more information via data-sharing platforms. They selected 7,710 assemblies, curated a data set of 7,666 and then analysed the emergence of genomic diversity over time.

(Excerpt) Read more at scmp.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ccp; china; dsj03; pandemic; virus
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To: Travis McGee

Thanks. I agree 1-2-3 are the options, but China/MSM won’t give up on 1 until concrete evidence of 2 or 3 emerges. Which is likely why China is blocking anyone (even the WHO now) from any investigation there.

The CCP never would have bleached down the wet market if there was any evidence it came from there, as it would have been the answer everyone is looking for. They bleached the wet market just to block any investigation that could have proven it did NOT come from there,
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21 posted on 05/07/2020 6:10:59 AM PDT by Golden Eagle (Pompeo says 'enormous evidence' virus came from Wuhan lab. So, let's see it.)
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To: Travis McGee
Thanks!

Your Post #13 was all I needed.

22 posted on 05/07/2020 6:20:45 AM PDT by Silent One
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Some like George Webb on YouTube very early surmised the rapid spread of the corona virus around the world suggested a vector was at work with a rapid global reach. He honed in early on the Wahun International Military Games that took place October 18-27, 2019.  Ten thousand athletes, from more than one hundred countries, participated in the games that were held in a large stadium with a capacity of approximately sixty thousand spectators.  If you were looking for a venue to aerosol an agent on a population that would then act as a vector to spread the virus around the globe, you would be hard pressed to come up with a more perfect option.


23 posted on 05/07/2020 6:21:04 AM PDT by iontheball
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To: Golden Eagle; Black Agnes

The proof will lie directly inside the original virus samples. I’m sure Trump already understands this, he’s been briefed. But we’re not ready for the consequences of making this official and public.

To virologists, studying the RNA sequence of SARS-COV 2 is like looking at Frankenstein’s monster, and seeing the big ugly neck sutures where Head A was spliced onto Body B.

We’re not ready to announce this yet, because we’d need to go on nearly a war footing with China, but in time I expect an oval office address on a level with JFK announcing the Soviet missiles in Cuba.

With the proof given in a Power Point briefing to the world.


24 posted on 05/07/2020 6:22:06 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: iontheball

Anything is possible, including an accidental leak of very nasty “gain of function” research in a sloppy lab.

But no matter how it was spread, SARS-COV 2 is not a naturally occurring mutation, it’s a deliberately engineered chimera.


25 posted on 05/07/2020 6:24:11 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Silent One

You bet.


26 posted on 05/07/2020 6:24:31 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

“But we’re not ready for the consequences of making this official and public.”

President Trump said it the other day when he was asked if he’d seen evidence that convinced him this thing came from the lab in Wuhan. He answered in the affirmative.

No one to my knowledge has followed up with the obvious next question.

“What are you going to do about it, Mr. President?”

This is gonna get even uglier before it’s over.

L


27 posted on 05/07/2020 6:38:27 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: Lurker

[IMHO Trump is getting us ready for the big reveal.]

“Trump says coronavirus worse than Pearl Harbor”

https://www.fox19.com/video/2020/05/07/trump-says-coronavirus-worse-than-pearl-harbor-states-continue-reopen/


28 posted on 05/07/2020 6:40:42 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee
The proof will lie directly inside the original virus samples.

Which everyone has been looking for, but China may still be withholding. Your post infers we may already have them, and I hope we do. But there is a chance Fauci and his little gang of diabolical virus manipulators may bear some responsibility for the US as well. I find it very interesting how Trump continues to speak so well of him, even yesterday. And as long as Russiagate has continued to play out, I’m not sure if/when we’ll ever see justice served to all involved, unfortunately. I thought Coulter’s article was terribly written but I don’t want any neoCons faking any Gulf of Tonkin’s either. We should just continue to dig, but be prepared for anything, it appears.

29 posted on 05/07/2020 6:46:21 AM PDT by Golden Eagle (Pompeo says 'enormous evidence' virus came from Wuhan lab. So, let's see it.)
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To: Travis McGee

I think he is, too. Something big is coming for China. I have a short list of possible responses.

Strip China of MFN status.
Kick them out of the WTO.
Cancel all visas held by Chinese nationals. Give them 7 days to leave US soil.
Reestablish full Diplomatic relations with Taiwan.
Demand the WHO admit Taiwan as a full member.
Demand the UN give Taiwan a full seat.
Publicly announce that the US no longer objects to Japan and South Korea going nuclear.
Recall our Ambassador from China for consultations.

Those will do for a start.

L


30 posted on 05/07/2020 6:46:36 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The Source is South China Morning News
which is the official China State rag.
This source is NOT CREDIBLE !!
31 posted on 05/07/2020 7:11:07 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“While retrospective studies have suggested various dates for the first Covid-19 patient, government data seen by the South China Morning Post put the first confirmed infection at November 17.”

And there was a report back then, at the time, but not correctly identified. But it was ignored by everyone, including me...

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2019/11/15/779526827/china-reports-2-cases-of-the-most-dangerous-type-of-plague

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/plague-china-pneumonic-hospital-diagnosis-beijing-health-virus-a9203066.html


32 posted on 05/07/2020 7:12:40 AM PDT by BobL
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

It NEVER jumped! It was created and released.


33 posted on 05/07/2020 7:54:02 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_China_Morning_Post


34 posted on 05/07/2020 8:11:55 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Travis McGee

You would have to research into China’s Thousand Talents program. This program is an underlying thread that needs researched and was being looked at last year by the NIH.

It feels like Fauci is hiding something, but tracking things down to if he is guilty of a undisclosed payout from with the Thousand Talents program or laundered payouts from the University researchers involved remains to be discovered.


35 posted on 05/07/2020 8:24:25 AM PDT by EBH (May God Save Our Freedom from our enemies within)
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To: Travis McGee

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2019/06/nih-probe-foreign-ties-has-led-undisclosed-firings-and-refunds-institutions

NIH probe of foreign ties has led to undisclosed firings—and refunds from institutions
By Jeffrey MervisJun. 26, 2019 , 5:10 PM


36 posted on 05/07/2020 8:25:29 AM PDT by EBH (May God Save Our Freedom from our enemies within)
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To: WellyP

It’s getting harder and harder for people to claim that this is naturally occuring.

Obviously, this leaked from the Wuhan lab.

It’s becoming just as obvious that someone was fooling around with the spike protein and the furin cleavage site on the virus.

Best case for China is they can sell the idea that the release was accidental and unplanned.

But with Trump’s comment yesterday “there’s never been an attack like this”, it’s looking more like the US is thinking that China isn’t quite the innocent co-victim in all of this. Things are about to get interesting.


37 posted on 05/07/2020 9:12:10 AM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: Golden Eagle

It looked like destruction of evidence at the time. Now we know why.

And now we know that Trump’s been briefed, after his comments yesterday. The time is coming, soon, when the world has to be told the truth, despite the best efforts of our lying garbage media to advance the CCP propaganda cover story.


38 posted on 05/07/2020 9:16:36 AM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: Travis McGee

LOL! Perfect graphic.


39 posted on 05/07/2020 9:35:01 AM PDT by Flick Lives (The real virus is the MSM)
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