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Coronavirus may have jumped to humans as early as October, study says
The South China Morning Post ^ | May 7, 2020 | by Liu Zhen

Posted on 05/07/2020 4:21:51 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

The Covid-19 pandemic might have started as early as October, according to the latest research into the genetic make-up of the coronavirus.

The pathogen, formally known as SARS-CoV-2, is thought to have made the jump from initial host to humans some time between October 6 and December 11 last year, according to an article released on Tuesday and set to be published in an upcoming edition of the scientific journal Infection, Genetics and Evolution.

The findings are based on analysis of more than 7,000 genome sequence assemblies collected from around the world since January. By examining the evolution of the mutations, researchers from University College London and the University of Reunion Island were able to rewind their molecular clocks to a common starting point.

They were also able to identify the major mutations to the coronavirus, which has continued to evolve since making the jump to humans.

Based on information from the first whole genome sequence of the coronavirus – published by a laboratory in Shanghai in January – and other genome analyses, scientists had earlier concluded that SARS-CoV-2 most likely came from a bat and made the jump to humans via an intermediate animal some time in November.

But by the time the latest study was conducted, late last month, the researchers had access to much more information via data-sharing platforms. They selected 7,710 assemblies, curated a data set of 7,666 and then analysed the emergence of genomic diversity over time.

(Excerpt) Read more at scmp.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ccp; china; dsj03; pandemic; virus
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1 posted on 05/07/2020 4:21:51 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The wet market story is just a cover.


2 posted on 05/07/2020 4:33:01 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Bull###! Americans know it was created in your lab like the last 4 viruses that killed, your days are numbered. The wrath or the American people will be upon you


3 posted on 05/07/2020 4:38:36 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Coronavirus may have jumped to humans as early as October

So, they're saying it "jumped" from the bio-weapons lab in October.

(like a flea)

4 posted on 05/07/2020 4:54:31 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (We need to reach across the aisle, extend a hand...And slap the crap out of them)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

The former Hong Kong Morning Post is now controlled by the ChineseCommunistParty


5 posted on 05/07/2020 5:14:46 AM PDT by A strike (" Was that wrong? Should I not have done this? " - Costanza)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Evolution..... Liu Zen said evolution

Therefore, Dr Brix can’t be trusted


6 posted on 05/07/2020 5:20:59 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Jumped? No, thrown.

rwood


7 posted on 05/07/2020 5:24:07 AM PDT by Redwood71
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To: Travis McGee

https://asiatimes.com/2020/04/why-us-outsourced-bat-virus-research-to-wuhan/ “...In the face of a moratorium in the US, Dr Anthony Fauci – the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) and currently the leading doctor in the US Coronavirus Task Force – outsourced in 2015 the GOF research to China’s Wuhan lab and licensed the lab to continue receiving US government funding.

The Wuhan lab is now at the center of scrutiny for possibly releasing the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus and causing the global Covid-19 pandemic...”


8 posted on 05/07/2020 5:28:33 AM PDT by WellyP (question!)
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To: WellyP

Yep. I wonder if Fauci ever met privately with the Bat Lady?


9 posted on 05/07/2020 5:29:20 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee
The wet market story is just a cover.

Could you provide a link/documentation?

Thanks.

10 posted on 05/07/2020 5:29:32 AM PDT by Silent One
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To: WellyP

G. O. F. GAIN of FUNCTION!


11 posted on 05/07/2020 5:29:51 AM PDT by WellyP (question!)
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To: A strike
The former Hong Kong Morning Post is now controlled by the ChineseCommunistParty

What isn't? The CCP has a controlling interest in virtually every US media, news group, and major newspaper (I'm looking at you NYTimes with your CCP paid for Sunday supplement).

Hell, the CCP even has their bought-and-paid-for Presidential candidate in Biden thru the "legal" bribes paid to Biden's son, Hunter.

You know Hunter, that expert in Chinese culture. Fluent in Mandarin and international trade relations. No wait. He's an expert in blowing coke and impregnating stip club dancers. Well, I guess it must be somewhat the same as the media has never questioned the payments to Hunter by the CCP.

12 posted on 05/07/2020 5:36:52 AM PDT by Flick Lives (The real virus is the MSM)
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To: WellyP

I did a search to see if Fauci and the Bat Lady met, and found this really excellent article. This is just an excerpt of it:

“Washington Clings to the Idea the Novel Coronavirus Came From Nature
The State Department, NIH and CDC know far more than they are telling”
https://www.theepochtimes.com/washington-clings-to-the-idea-the-novel-coronavirus-came-from-nature_3324786.html

In 2015 a number of scientists including the now world-famous “bat lady” scientist Shi Zhengli (listed in the article as Zhengli-LiShi) published a paper called “A SARS-like cluster of circulating bat coronaviruses show potential for human emergence.” The study included American researchers associated with the University of North Carolina Department of Cell Biology and probably is related to work that was funded by the U.S. government. (That research was suspended on the grounds it was highly dangerous in 2014, but resumed in 2017.)

The paper is focused on the SARS-like virus SHCO14-CoV, “which is currently circulating in (the) Chinese horseshoe bat populations.” Shi Zhengli became famous for going to places where these bats live, capturing them and bringing them back to the virology lab. The researchers say, “Using the SARS-CoV reverse genetics system, we generated and characterized a chimeric virus expressing the spike of bat coronoavirus SHCO14 in a mouse-adapted SARS-CoV backbone.”

A chimeric virus is defined as “new hybrid microorganism created by joining nucleic acid fragments from two or more different microorganisms in which each of at least two of the fragments contain essential genes necessary for replication.”

What this means is that the research group was able to take the bat virus and make it potentially capable of infecting humans, or as they say “we built a chimeric virus encoding a novel zoonotic CoV spike protein … that was isolated from Chinese horseshoe bats—in the context of the SARS-CoV mouse-adapted backbone.”

It is not clear what the purpose of this research was, but it certainly demonstrated that a coronavirus can be modified in a way that the infection could emerge in humans.

U.S. Concern
In 2018, as is now understood, the United States was concerned about conditions in the Wuhan Virology Laboratory and the U.S. Embassy in Beijing dispatched a team on two occasions to visit the laboratory and meet with scientists there, including Dr. Shi Zhengli.

The report pointed out serious deficiencies in the lab and warned about potential threats posed by coronaviruses in bats. Presumably the Embassy knew much more about Wuhan’s bat research than has been revealed so far, and were greatly concerned about the danger it raised.

Unfortunately, the State Department has not released the reporting cables sent back to the United States nor the cables that prompted the investigations. Moreover, the fact that the State Department experts were sent back to the lab a second time suggests they were instructed to go back and ask more questions about what the Chinese scientists were doing with horseshoe bats.

Clearly the U.S. government was alarmed—in fact the CDC had closed down some labs in the United States fearing the release of virus infections.

Given the Chinese research record, warnings about the conditions in the Wuhan Virology Laboratory, previously recorded research involving modifying SARS (corona) viruses, and research with coronaviruses and HIV, it is difficult to understand why Washington is sticking with the natural bats to humans explanation for the current coronavirus plague. Washington knows better.

Pretending the coronavirus pandemic is something natural is intentionally misleading the American people, and people around the world infected by the coronavirus.

At minimum, the CDC and NIH as well as the State Department should tell us what they really know. An independent investigation is needed with full access to all records.


13 posted on 05/07/2020 5:39:58 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: WellyP
GAIN of FUNCTION!

One of the most truly insidious ideas ever. Artificially engineer a natural virus into a much more dangerous form. A form which never occurred in nature. Seems like "gain of function" is just a PC term for "bio weapon".

14 posted on 05/07/2020 5:40:58 AM PDT by Flick Lives (The real virus is the MSM)
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To: Travis McGee

Pretending the coronavirus pandemic is something natural is intentionally misleading the American people, and people around the world infected by the coronavirus.

At minimum, the CDC and NIH as well as the State Department should tell us what they really know.

Too many politicians in the US have accepted bribes (funneled thru “legally” via family members hired as consultants) from the CCP to turn an accusatory finger at China.


15 posted on 05/07/2020 5:45:19 AM PDT by Flick Lives (The real virus is the MSM)
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To: Silent One

The chimera (cat-dog-pig) meme explains why the wet market story is a cover, but I will give you some links as well down below. Also, read the article I just posted above.

A dog with a black face can be a natural mutation. A pig body with cat legs and tails and a dog’s head is not a mutation, it was obviously genetically engineered (if this was possible. Give it time.)

At the virus level, SARS-COV 2 is like that unnatural chimera. Virologists know it was not a natural accident of nature.

Watch these if you want to really dive into it. The first one is where I found the image of the Coronavirus family tree used in the above chimera meme.

Coronavirus: Are Our Scientists Lying To Us? (May 4, 2020)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZUJhKUbd0k

More Evidence Covid-19 May *NOT* Be Natural (May 7, 2020)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJzGqVyAtlg


16 posted on 05/07/2020 5:48:55 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Flick Lives
Seems like "gain of function" is just a PC term for "bio weapon".

(What country has tens of millions of spare citizens it would not mind losing, especially "excess" males who have no female counterparts, as a result of the "one-child policy?" What country has a history of murdering its own people by the tens of millions?)


17 posted on 05/07/2020 5:54:13 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

One of the leading doctors investigating what actually happened over there posted this study, showing that common lab ferrets and shrews are the most likely animal source that was combined with RATG13, which is the closest known bat virus, and existed ONLY in Wuhan.

https://twitter.com/R_H_Ebright/status/1247065232897454083


18 posted on 05/07/2020 5:56:40 AM PDT by Golden Eagle (Pompeo says 'enormous evidence' virus came from Wuhan lab. So, let's see it.)
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To: Golden Eagle

That’s another theory, sort of in the middle as “semi natural.”

1. Natural: it “just happened” in the wet market.

2. Semi-natural: Scientists did repeated animal species to species experiments until it mutated into a form transmissible to humans.

3. Man-made: RNA frags spliced together to create a “gain of function” novel virus.

My money is on #3, but after #1 is blown, they will probably fall back to #2 as their next cover story.


19 posted on 05/07/2020 5:59:55 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Golden Eagle; Flick Lives; Black Agnes

20 posted on 05/07/2020 6:01:42 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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