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To: TTFlyer

> So said the concentration camp guards.... <

Not a valid comparison. I am talking about lawful orders, as understood by a civilized society.

As I noted earlier, I am not pro-police. But they are getting a bad rap in this article. For example, suppose a mayor orders a crackdown on illegal gambling. That’s a lawful order. Do we really want cops to debate that? “I see gambling as a victimless crime,” says a sergeant. “So I’ll pass.”

That’s not the way it’s supposed to work when it comes to lawful orders.

The author is talking about silly - and probably counter-productive - orders. But they are lawful orders, as understood by a civilized society. Heap scorn on the politicians. That’s where the blame lies here.


11 posted on 05/07/2020 4:26:37 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: Leaning Right; TTFlyer

“..Heap scorn on the politicians...”

The politician isn’t the guy standing there with the gun pointed at your face screaming “ON THE GROUND! DO IT!”.


13 posted on 05/07/2020 4:29:48 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Leaning Right

Stripping the people of their Constitutional Rights are not “lawful orders.” Period. Full stop.


17 posted on 05/07/2020 4:35:24 AM PDT by TTFlyer
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To: Leaning Right
I am talking about lawful orders

They are unconstitutional orders and hence unlawful orders. In many cases, there is no law behind them whatsoever. It is tyranny.

We have heavily armed, paramilitary law enforcement in this country. Besides sheriffs and constables, they are not lead by elected officials. They are a fraternity that covers each others asses instead of doing the right thing. They lost the trust of minority communities ages ago, and now they are working on deplorables.

20 posted on 05/07/2020 4:39:02 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA (It's official! I'm nominated for the 2020 Mr. Hyperbole and Sarcasm Award.)
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To: Leaning Right
Your example is a poor one because it involves activity that is illegal by statute. Even the mutant judge in Texas who sent that hair salon owner to jail yesterday openly admitted that the governor’s shutdown order was probably illegal.
24 posted on 05/07/2020 4:50:37 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("And somewhere in the darkness ... the gambler, he broke even.")
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To: Leaning Right

the lockdowns are not lawful orders....that’s the whole point.


25 posted on 05/07/2020 4:56:38 AM PDT by ARW
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To: Leaning Right

“Not a valid comparison. I am talking about lawful orders, as understood by a civilized society.”

How about when I drove down the highway yesterday at about 78 mph when the speed limit was 70. I went thru a speed trap and nothing happened. That cop didn’t follow “a lawful order”.
Personally I am going to call that judicious enforcement. He will not be suspended or fired for not giving me a ticket nor should he be.
Cops need to use good judgement and enforce egregious violations of said “lawful orders”.


38 posted on 05/07/2020 5:43:13 AM PDT by mistfree (Virginia Freeper)
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To: Leaning Right

The examples listed by the author were not lawful orders. They were civil rights violations. LEOs need to understand the Constitution that they swore an oath to defend.


47 posted on 05/07/2020 6:16:09 AM PDT by lakecumberlandvet (Appeasement never works.)
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