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The Challenge of Decoupling from China: Getting the Chinese out of our research and tech institutions presents a host of complications
American Thinker ^ | 05/05/2020 | David Solway

Posted on 05/05/2020 6:53:22 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

I would re-name the malaise from which we suffer CHINA-19. The acronym might stand for something like China’s Highly Infectious National Arsenal -- readers can supply their own candidates -- though the 19 is only a very specific temporal designator. The problem of China dates from the time of Nixon’s reopening of diplomatic relations in 1972 to the present moment.

One recalls the Bushes’ preoccupation with Iraq when the menace was always Jimmy Carter’s Iran. Similarly, the media and Democratic obsession with Russia Russia Russia! was not only wrong and meretricious but completely beside the point; the political and economic threat was always China.

Proposed solutions to the problem of our continued vulnerability to viral epidemics abound, the most significant of which is radical decoupling from China. There has already been considerable friction over trade, cyber espionage and technology -- the controversy over Huawei and 5G being an example of the latter. The COVID pandemic has brought matters to a head.

Senator Tom Cotton wants to ban Chinese students from studying in the U.S. in order to put a stop to the Chinese theft of American cultural property. President Trump is taking the issue seriously, considering the possibility of restricting student visas for Chinese students studying or wishing to study in the U.S. Are these feasible solutions to the problem of infiltration into the most critical sectors of the American scientific, technological, military and information structures and institutions?

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chicoms; china; davidsolway; decoupling; espionage; research; spying
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“It is wrong to cast an entire group of students, professors, and scientists as a threat to our country based simply on where they come from,” said Patrick Toomey, an ACLU staff lawyer. ”

But is it wrong? Is facile moralizing an appropriate response to a severe medical, technological and economic crisis? Mistakes will certainly be made, but considering that the ACLU is an alt-left, anti-conservative outfit, its advocacy has to be regarded with extreme suspicion.

David Goldman, writing in Asia Times, explains that although he has advocated for selective decoupling from China, he objects to the “popular idea of a total decoupling of the American and Chinese economies.” Imports from China now “amount to a quarter of total U.S. manufacturing output, and…the U.S. doesn’t have the skills to replace a great deal of Chinese production.” Nor does America have enough engineers to take up the slack that disengaging would bring forth -- “China graduated six times as many engineers as the United States.” In fact, “Four out of five U.S. doctoral candidates in electrical engineering and computer science are foreign students, and the largest cohort by far is Chinese.” Most Chinese engineers go back to China because “there aren’t enough faculty jobs around to hire new PhDs.” In other words, if separation is to proceed, it must do so carefully, gingerly and with great foresight, and it may never be entirely possible.

1 posted on 05/05/2020 6:53:22 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Chinese nationals, even those naturalized or whose parents are naturalized should not be allowed anywhere near sensitive national or corporate information. All of them have families in China. All those family members are hostages to good behaviour i.e. spying and transmitting back to China every scrap of information they encounter.


2 posted on 05/05/2020 6:59:13 AM PDT by arthurus (covfefe adder)
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To: SeekAndFind

We’ll never get rid of the China threat, as long as we have birthright citizenship.


3 posted on 05/05/2020 7:02:20 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: arthurus

Offer 100% scholarships to Americans taking stem courses. Then stop hiring Chinese instead of Americans. Guarantee employment of American phds.


4 posted on 05/05/2020 7:02:55 AM PDT by Oldexpat (Stand strong VA.)
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To: arthurus

“nationals, even those naturalized or whose parents are naturalized should not be allowed anywhere near sensitive national or corporate information. “

Non Americans should not be near anything like that.

Foreigners buying any kind of strategic asset should also be banned.
ChiComs, their supporters, families and US profiteers ain’t our friends.


5 posted on 05/05/2020 7:04:00 AM PDT by Macoozie (Handcuffs and Orange Jumpsuits)
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To: SeekAndFind

The higher-education-industrial complex is going to scream bloody murder.

They have already passed the point of peak debt and money they can squeeze from American students and government to maintain their bloated bureaucracies.
Coronavirus has started their slide down

So removing even part of that large group of 300K Chinese students, who usually pay full tuition, is going to hurt them in the pocketbook.


6 posted on 05/05/2020 7:04:39 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: SeekAndFind

It is culturally embedded for Chinese to compete over learning. Goes back to their ancient mandarin system of acquiring status and power by passing advancement tests.
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There’s millions of us, but billions of them. They will always outproduce everyone else for talent.
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Doing some reading on new Corona treatments, and here is a paper, from a lab, with a dozen or so contributors, from the Netherlands and three of their doctors are Chinese.


7 posted on 05/05/2020 7:05:08 AM PDT by gandalftb
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To: SeekAndFind
I have witnessed first hand the trechery and underhandness of CHICOM researchers at US institutions. Not only are the CHICOMS using these folks to steal intellectual property, but they are also there to undermine American strengths in innovation in science and technology.

So, I view the CHICOMS undermining themselves with using Wuhan Flu as a bioweapon as a godsend. They kicked off a cold war we really needed to start 5 years ago.

8 posted on 05/05/2020 7:06:08 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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A college librarian friend says the ChiCom undergads just have her photocopying every technical book, paper and journal en mass.

The ChiComs are raiding our intellectual property NOW.


9 posted on 05/05/2020 7:07:36 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (BOYCOTT CHINA! - spread the word .... (China is the Sick Man of Asia with a very small penis))
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In 2017-2018 there were 12,000 Iranian students in this country. How smart is that? I guarantee they weren’t majority liberal arts & humanities majors.


10 posted on 05/05/2020 7:09:09 AM PDT by Reily
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To: SeekAndFind

Its not a question of complications. It a matter of consequences. The existing relationship is clearly not working for us.


11 posted on 05/05/2020 7:11:19 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: SeekAndFind

In the 2017-18 academic year, more than 12,000 Iranians attended US colleges. Here ya go:
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https://www.educationusairan.com/homeeng
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Only in the last 8 years have they been banned from Nuclear Engineering.


12 posted on 05/05/2020 7:12:51 AM PDT by gandalftb
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To: jacknhoo

Are there any advantages to being a citizen anymore? It sure doesn’t look like it.


13 posted on 05/05/2020 7:13:27 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: jacknhoo

The Chinese have learned well. All of the problems they had a century ago they are inflicting on us. They eventually got rid of those problems, but look at what it cost them.


14 posted on 05/05/2020 7:17:42 AM PDT by henkster ("We can always fool the foreigner" - Chinese Proverb)
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To: Macoozie

Non Americans and second generation Chinese-Americans. When the life of your great grandfather in China is at stake you send back all the info you can find.


15 posted on 05/05/2020 7:23:45 AM PDT by arthurus (covfefe dee)
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To: SeekAndFind

Time to completely decouple from China. Yes it will be painful.

But it must be done.

Now.

L


16 posted on 05/05/2020 7:29:17 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The COVID pandemic has brought matters to a head.
Time to tell them you go home now we don’t need you.


17 posted on 05/05/2020 7:43:33 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: Starboard
Are there any advantages to being a citizen anymore?

It is actually quite disadvantageous. My job applications would get a response when the news reported that H1b visas had run out for the year. At other times there was almost no opportunity available in the USA.


18 posted on 05/05/2020 7:53:54 AM PDT by magooey (The Mandate of Heaven resides in the hearts of men.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Universities are addicted to ChiCom students’ tuition.

They will never give it up.


19 posted on 05/05/2020 8:07:49 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who could have guessed the Communist Revolution would arrive disguised as the common cold?)
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“The Challenge of Decoupling from China: Getting the Chinese out of our research and tech institutions presents a host of complications”

no doubt ... but the greatest nation on the face of the planet ought to have no problem dealing with such complications ... IF we have a government that has the political will to do so ...


20 posted on 05/05/2020 9:18:14 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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